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EDELWEISS
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Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber
      #342716 - 23/06/20 11:26 AM

Its not a 4 Bore, Its not even a 8 Bore; but its available if a bit pricey for a toy. OTOH there arent a lot of options in big bore rifled muzzle-loaders. Ive generally been pleased with Pedersoli guns.

Before I make the leap, Im wondering if anyone has one?


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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #342718 - 23/06/20 11:56 AM

I have one but haven't shot it yet... I know... bad! bad! bad!

Pedersoli should have made it with a ram rod - it looks to be the exact same stock as the Gibbs match rifles.
The sights are a bit modernish for what is really supposed to be an early 19th Century style rifle but overall fit and finish is quite nice.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #342719 - 23/06/20 11:56 AM

I dont own a Gibs hunter but a year ago I bought one of their Whitworths. To make a long story shoot it would not shoot and I have been going back and forth for almost 8 months. It was in one of there repair facilities for 7 months and when I finally got it back it shot even worst than when I sent it in. I am now weighting on a new barrels and I am informed it is a couple of months down the road. Second bad Pedersoli I have ended up with and there will not be a third after this fiascoes. If you have a warranty issue you will wish you never heard of them.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #342725 - 23/06/20 03:18 PM

I have one and I like it. I accept that the fit and finish is not the same quality of my British or German double rifles or guns, but then the Gibbs cost is thousands of dollars less. I have shot my a few hundred times. I will be hunting with mine this Fall.

The only thing I dislike is not having a ramrod mounted on the rifle.
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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: dracb]
      #342749 - 24/06/20 01:31 AM



Mike is usually decent for videos. I haven't watched it yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-C4Q1AWEWk

Just watched it, not much going on about the particulars.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: Daryl_S]
      #342750 - 24/06/20 01:37 AM

Here it is again, rate of twist 1:75".

Gibbs Hunter, Rifles Gibbs (1865) - Davide Pedersoli
www.davide-pedersoli.com
Caliber .72 Grooves 6. mm, inches. Twist, 1:75. Barrel's length, 740, 29 1/8. Overall length, 1.150, 45 5/16. kg, lbs. Weight, 4,200, 9.25.

It looks quite nice, but the lack of a rod is a bit of a bummer.

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EDELWEISS
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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: Daryl_S]
      #342753 - 24/06/20 09:10 AM

I agree, I dont like the rear sight; but in my mind thats just a reason to add a set of folding leaf Express Sights. It is bothersome that for $1800 that it come with a modern looking aperture. Conversely I do like the look without a ramrod....but it would have been nice to have one included.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #342760 - 24/06/20 12:19 PM

Have you looked at [ The Gun Works ]?

They have an English Sporting Rifle in several calibers.

"The English Sporting Rifle will feature the following:

Available in 45, 50, 54, 58, 62, and 69 caliber
Oregon Barrel Company tapered octagon 1-1/8" to 1" barrel
Barrel lengths: 28" to 36"
Twist and rifling depth are made to order. Forsythe Rifling available.
Davis lock and single trigger
Standard length of pull is 13-3/4"
Available in two grades of Maple or Walnut:
Select: with figure, but can fade out
Select Plus: with figure throughout"

They also have a 4 and 8 bore.

I know nothing of there Quality, but I do have one of there .69 cal barrels.

With .120" land and .160" groves, slow twist. looks good!

Have not shot it yet.

Edited by bstrick (25/06/20 03:40 AM)


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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: bstrick]
      #342784 - 25/06/20 12:31 AM

Good to hear, Bruce.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: Daryl_S]
      #342798 - 25/06/20 08:18 AM

I have known the owners of the gun works for over 25 years. Joe just passed away a few months ago. I worked in their barrel shop for several years and they do make good barrels.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: Wayne59]
      #342826 - 26/06/20 08:47 AM

I guess you need to have a pair of these rifles, and a gun bearer who loads and passes you the rifle as needed.
I believe the old live pigeon guns in England often did not have a ramrod on the gun and you had a loader who carried that and the gear to load. I note some European hunting rifles had aperture sights.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: Heelerau]
      #342832 - 27/06/20 03:27 AM

What am I missing here? 12 gauge slug gun? Brown Bess musket?




Joe Williams has passed. Last time I was in his shop was 81-82. Joe sold me 25 lbs of FA Black powder for my cannon.

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Edited by DoubleD (27/06/20 04:30 AM)


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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: DoubleD]
      #342833 - 27/06/20 04:31 AM

Oh yeah, rifling.

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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: DoubleD]
      #342839 - 27/06/20 11:16 AM

Is LUST a bad thing, cuz Im reaaaaally wanting the 4 Bore. Its pricey but sooooo much cooler than the 72cal Gibbs--and I thought the Gibbs was cool.

I know the 72cal Gibbs would "do" anything I likely be hunting and the 8 Bore is classic; but damn, the 4 Bore is just screaming my name. It way too much for anything in the US, but I back to just wanting one.

Suddenly it makes the the Gibbs look like an affordable necessity.


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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #342841 - 27/06/20 01:11 PM

I have a 7 ga smoothbore, sure would be nice to have the 8 rifled.

The 7 ga shoots a 7/8". 1000 grain roundball at 1100 FPS. Mild load!


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Re: Gibbs African Rifle 72 caliber [Re: bstrick]
      #342848 - 27/06/20 04:44 PM

Quote:

Have you looked at [ The Gun Works ]?

They have an English Sporting Rifle in several calibers.

"The English Sporting Rifle will feature the following:

Available in 45, 50, 54, 58, 62, and 69 caliber
Oregon Barrel Company tapered octagon 1-1/8" to 1" barrel
Barrel lengths: 28" to 36"
Twist and rifling depth are made to order. Forsythe Rifling available.
Davis lock and single trigger
Standard length of pull is 13-3/4"
Available in two grades of Maple or Walnut:
Select: with figure, but can fade out
Select Plus: with figure throughout"

They also have a 4 and 8 bore.

I know nothing of there Quality, but I do have one of there .69 cal barrels.

With .120" land and .160" groves, slow twist. looks good!

Have not shot it yet.






http://www.thegunworks.com/custprodgun.cfm?ProductID=2544&do=detail&Cat2Option=yes#

English Sporting Rifle - Ultimate - 4Bore(TGW-U4) $4,750.00
Select Plus Wood Model Manufactured by Custom
Pieces: 1 Stock: Walnut
Barrel Length: 31in Twist: 1:104
Caliber: 4Bore
Diameter: 1-3/4in to 1-1/2in
In the mid to late 1800's, many hunters used large bore rifles to hunt dangerous African game. Many safaris were made atop an elephant's back. This is the rifle for living one's dream successfully.
The Ultimate 4 Bore English Sporting Rifle with a pistol grip will feature the following:

Available in 4 Bore
Oregon Barrel Company tapered octagon 1-3/4" to 1-1/2" barrel
Barrel length: 31"
Rifling twist:1:104
Custom Davis lock and single trigger
Standard length of pull is 13-5/8"
Available in Walnut Select Plus: with figure throughout
Ebony nose and pistol grip cap
Checkered grip and forend
On Orders Specify:

Rear Sight placement from breech plug



http://www.thegunworks.com/custprodgun.cfm?ProductID=2543&do=detail&Cat2Option=yes

English Sporting Rifle - Ultimate - 8Bore(TGW-U8) $4,750.00
Select Plus Wood Model Manufactured by Custom
Pieces: 1 Stock: Walnut
Barrel Length: 31-1/2in Twist: 1:144
Caliber: 8Bore
Diameter: 1-5/16in to 1-3/16in
On may of his African safaris, one of Sir Samuel Baker's weapons of choice was the 8 Bore Sporting Rifle. This rifle, even though being lighter and smaller caliber than "Baby", will be just as deadly with a carefully placed shot.
The Ultimate 8 Bore English Sporting Rifle will feature the following:

Available in 8 Bore
Oregon Barrel Company tapered octagon 1-5/16" to 1-3/16" barrel
Barrel length: 31-1/2"
Rifling twist:1:144
Custom Davis lock and single trigger
Standard length of pull is 13-5/8"
Available in Walnut Select Plus: with figure throughout
Ebony nose cap
Checkered grip and forend
On Orders Specify:

Rear Sight placement from breech plug

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