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Dugaboy1,

As stated in previous posts, is it more ethical to wait out a wounded animal, let him "stiffen up" for an hour or more before following up? Wounded animals happen in hunting, I don't think MS's way is anymore wrong than waiting an animal out to suffer and bleed to death.

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MainGuide, The sittuation you site of not following up too quickly, and allowing him to stiffen up, or bleed to death is only done by Bow hunters, and it is a neccessary thing to do. With an arrow poked deer, if you follow up too soon you will likely loose him , because he will run till he's out of blood, and hence no blood trail, Equals a lost deer. The only time a Cape Buffalo is not followed up quickly, is when light is failing,and you have to wait for daylight, or when he gets into bush so think it is unsafe to go in till you can be sure how bad he's hit. Both times this is consideration for human life!

You know as well as the rest of us, your example is not valid, because there is a large difference in standing within fifty feet of an animal you can see, and watch him suffer, when you could simply shoot him, and end it, and one in the long grass where someone may be killed, or an arrow shot deer, that you may loose if you act too soon! There is also a very large difference in standing a charge of a buffalo that is in plain sight, and going into that long grass after him! MS always chooses the open to be brave, standing a charge that didn't have to happen in the first place, except for film footage, not to give the bull a choice bull shit he spouts! It's dollars, nothing more! I suspect you knew all this anyway, and simply like sinsationalism, and like MS don't care how you get it!

In any event, I will never have to worry about it, because I could never afford one of his induced charges, even if I thought it was ethical, which I do not! If you enjoy his antics, be my guest, you are in the minority in the African hunting community in your opinion of this subject, but then you, and a few others, may be right, and the rest of the hunting world wrong. MS himself said publicly that "HE IS THE MOST HATED MAN IN AFRICAN SAFARI INDUSTRY" I agree with him on that point!

PS: What makes you think what I said about the film SUDDEN DEATH is an exaggeration? all you have to do is watch the film for yourself!If you need the footage count, I'll get it for you. With the animal dragging himself plainly in the background, MS stops twice while walking to the wounded buff, to talk to the camera a string of his unending pontification, and to proclaim his concession to be the best. Then to stand, and talk to the client about how he made the wounding shot, while the buff draggs himself toward them, while every muscle in his body trimbled in nearvous convulsion. His films are a PeTA dream come true!

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"My cameraman and I had been very successful in getting great footage of everything except a buffalo charge. Needless to say, we knew what we needed and fully appreciated that without a great charge, the movie would not be completed ." (Emphasis added) p. 29.

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Guys, what don't you get here, he wants the animal to charge, that's why he walks in on a wounded buffalo. It either charges or runs away. The same with Hippo's and they are not wounded when he walks into their flee or fight zone. Nothing unethical about that, just plain ballsy.

Maineguide

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Ethically, most of the guys here are real hunters and share an obligation to put the animal down as quickly as possible with as little suffering by the animal as possible.

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NitroX, whether you steped out and shot him in charge or retreat or as you did "shot him from behind the tree" it matters not to me. I just don't find any of those methods unethical. If Sullivan chooses to risk his life more than others that's up to him, but don't say its unethical.

Maineguide

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I don't remember making anything but neutral remarks regarding Sulivan.

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