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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: 3DogMike]
      #334154 - 03/11/19 11:42 AM

Maybe it wasn’t used too much.
It was definitely more used and weathered looking than most A.H. sporters you come across but that could probably be attributed to poor storage as much as outright use.

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: Huvius]
      #334156 - 03/11/19 02:39 PM

I think it looks great.
The condition seems right for the purpose of the rifle.

I look forward to the field report.

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: tinker]
      #334161 - 04/11/19 03:19 AM

#3686 a .577 2 3/4” just popped up:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101322010

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: 3DogMike]
      #334163 - 04/11/19 03:36 AM

Pretty scruffy but surely tons of fun!

At the other end of the condition spectrum:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25427/lot/58/

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: Huvius]
      #334164 - 04/11/19 04:16 AM

That 577 is cool!

I really like the scruffy ones.
:-)

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: tinker]
      #334170 - 04/11/19 07:51 AM

Huvius,

You have a very nice-looking sealing rifle. It seems to be in great shape for a rifle tht has been to sea and used as a tool.

Your rifle is in better shape than my sealing rifle. Unfortunately, a former owner decided to clean my rifle. The action appears to have been lightly buffed, and the markings are either fairly light or missing. I don’t see a serial number; the only number is 1898 stamped on the top of the action which I believe is a patent number. The bore of my rifle was somewhat rough so I lapped the bore and now it shoots hard cast GC bullets fairly well.

Does your rifle have the ship marked on the stock? Mine did but someone tried to remove that stamp (letters are now impossible to read). The seller thought that it was “borrowed” by a crew member who removed most of the markings.

These are fun guns to shoot. I use a NfB loads but plan to try black.

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: 3DogMike]
      #334178 - 04/11/19 09:24 PM

Quote:

#3686 a .577 2 3/4” just popped up:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101322010

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RichB
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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: 85lc]
      #334180 - 04/11/19 09:34 PM

Quote:

Huvius,

You have a very nice-looking sealing rifle. It seems to be in great shape for a rifle tht has been to sea and used as a tool.

Your rifle is in better shape than my sealing rifle. Unfortunately, a former owner decided to clean my rifle. The action appears to have been lightly buffed, and the markings are either fairly light or missing. I don’t see a serial number; the only number is 1898 stamped on the top of the action which I believe is a patent number. The bore of my rifle was somewhat rough so I lapped the bore and now it shoots hard cast GC bullets fairly well.

Does your rifle have the ship marked on the stock? Mine did but someone tried to remove that stamp (letters are now impossible to read). The seller thought that it was “borrowed” by a crew member who removed most of the markings.

These are fun guns to shoot. I use a NfB loads but plan to try black.



Could it be 1858 ?

That is a patent number on a sealing rifle, serial number 5125, .450 ...

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: RichB]
      #334198 - 05/11/19 09:00 AM

The top of the action is stamped "HENRY'S PATENT 1898". While a small part of the 9 is missing. it is not a 5. If I can figure out how to post a picture, I will post one of this stamping.
I guess it is possible that the rifle was incorrectly stamped with the patent #.
My rifle is also a 450 3 1/4" BPE rifle,
The wood in the buttstock is very nice, well figured wood. The inletting is excellent.

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: 3DogMike]
      #335283 - 09/12/19 11:12 PM

A further update (considerable number added thanks to a contact trawling through old auction catalogues) :

Serial No Whereabouts
128 County Durham, England
198 Fairfield, ME, US
312
329 Northwest Territories, Canada
430
434 Wyoming, USA
457 Holts Mar '19
494 Bonhams 4/10
497 Holts Mar '18
523 Sotheby's Dec '88
588 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
604 England
657 Holts June 2019
718 James Julia spring '10
719 Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
736 East Yorkshire
757 Holts Sept 2019
861 Colorado, USA
967 Edinburgh
985 Bonhams 11/14
999 Guns International 4/18
1071 Texas, USA
1088 Guns International
1105 Bonhams 4/11
1168 Antony Cribb Ltd
1187 Kalamazoo, MI, USA
1214 James Julia Oct '15
1282 Northwest Territories, Canada
1290 1291 Sotheby's Mar '87
1312 James Julia spring '08
1421 James Julia fall '14
1445 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
1465
1516 Holts March 2019
1559 in old catalogue
1561
1571
1606 James Julia spring '08
1653 Giles Marriott
1671 Australia
1710 Slovakia ?
1749 Bonhams 8/04
1759
1770 Holts Dec '06
1779 Christies Mar '02
1794
1831 gunsinternational.com
1922
1923 Sotheby's Apr '89
2002 Holts Sep '07
2071
2098 Northwest Territories, Canada
2134 gunsinternational.com
2153 Italy
2170 Sotheby's 2001
2206 Holts Sep '06
2227 Arizona, USA
2311 BC, Canada
2322 Sotheby's Aug '02
2326 Holts Mar '07
2375 James Julia spring '12
2393 Colorado, USA
2468 US
2474
2484
2548 James Julia Apr '17
2584 Virginia, USA
2603
2683 Bertram & Co.
2708 Holts Dec 2018
2733 James Julia
3021 North Yorkshire
3035 James Julia Apr '17
3045 Australia
3132 James Julia Mar '15
3149 Arizona, USA
3157 BC, Canada
3185 Colorado, USA
3210 James Julia Oct '17
3240
3285 James Julia fall '09
3306 Amoskeag auction 11/'19
3307 Amoskeag auction 11/'19
3316 James Julia fall '11
3339 Savannah, Georgia, USA
3585 James Julia spring '14
3609 Christie's Sept '99
3622 gunsinternational.com
3654 James Julia spring '13
3686 Atlanta Georgia, USA
3687
3688
3766 Finland
3809 Australia
3812
3814 gunsinternational.com
3863 Massachusetts USA
3884
3932 Muskegon, Michigan, USA
3990 3991 Christie's Mar '02
4060 Montana, USA
4017
4018 Plymouth
4031 Colorado, USA
4195 Holts Sept '19
4209 Bonhams Nov '19
4244 South East Kansas, USA
4257 Ontario, Canada
4402
4463 Sotheby's Aug '03
4509 Christie's Nov '95
4511 Colorado, USA
4621 Australia
4662 Museum of Edinburgh
4687 Holts Jun '07
4757 Holts Dec '19
4771 & 4772
4884 Colorado
5039 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
5048 Sotheby's Aug '05
5071 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
5102 Colorado, USA
5116 Atlanta Georgia, USA
5123 Colorado, USA
5142 Michigan, USA
5152 Guns International
5229 Northwest Territories, Canada
5273 Guns International
5289 Plymouth
5293 Oklahoma, USA
5298 England
5333 Scotland
5373
5393 Luper Auction Dec '19
5444 Wisconsin, USA
5469 Holts Mar '11
5500 Hermann Historica auction, Munich Nov '18
5529 Colorado, USA
5556 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
5589
5619 Colorado, USA
5627 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
5629
5657 Sotheby's Aug '04
5660 Christie's Nov '95
5693 Finland
5672 Georgia, USA
5701 USA
5702 USA
5752 Gavin Gardiner Dec '07
5798
5816 New York State, USA
5828 Wisconsin, USA
5834 Rock Island auction
5852 Colorado, USA
5866 Bonhams 12/05
5871 5872 Christie's Sept '99
5905 Guns International
5923 Luper Auction Dec '19
5929 gunsinternational.com
5940 Sotheby's Apr '89
5956 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
5960 Finland
5977 Harrisburg USA
5987 Rock Island auction
6002 Bryanston, South Africa
6036 James Julia fall '09
6083 Wisconsin, USA
6097 James Julia spring '09
6115 Virginia, USA
6123 Holts Dec '17
6160 WA, USA
6181 USA
6198 Wisconsin, USA
6234 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
6277 Virginia, USA
6284 Plymouth
6311 Gavin Gardiner Apr '07
6354 Hyderabad, India 500-032
6408 gunsinternational.com
6410 Wisconsin, USA
6413 James Julia Apr '17
6418 Nelson, New Zealand
6449 Virginia, USA
6470 Canada
6473
6476 Wyoming, USA
6507
6538
6549 Victoria
6579 Wisconsin, USA
6580 El Dorado Hills, California, USA
6637 Pennsylvania, USA
6639 Colorado, USA
6665 Wisconsin, USA
6673 Australia
6677 Australia
6679 USA
6681 Sainte-Brigitte-de-Laval, Canada
6687
6701 Australia
6753 Gavin Gardiner Dec '07
6774 Gavin Gardiner Dec '19
6813
6814 Christie's Sept '99
6843 South Carolina, USA
6865 James Julia fall '09
6892 in 1974 catalogue
6927 James Julia fall '14
6928 Sotheby's Oct '90
6955 Bonhams SF, 6/16
7013
7039 Holts Dec '19
7043 Guns International
7055 Las Vegas, NV, USA
7056
7092 New York, USA
7093 New York, USA
7113 & 7114 Guns International
7140 North Yorkshire
7150 Guns International
7215 Devon
7221 7222 in old catalogue 1982
7355 Holts Mar '19
7433 Manchester, NH, US
7457
7698 Bryanston, South Africa
7709
7755 Museum of Edinburgh
7765 Gavin Gardiner sale
7894 US
7984 Rock Island Auction April '18
8010 Gavin Gardiner sale
8048 Rock Island Auction April '18
8204

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RichB
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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: RichB]
      #335284 - 10/12/19 02:23 AM

If you'd like to view some of these old auction entries, go to :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/AlexHenryRifles/

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: RichB]
      #336113 - 04/01/20 03:32 AM

There are now over 260 listed :
Serial No Whereabouts
128 County Durham, England
198 Fairfield, ME, US
312
329 Northwest Territories, Canada
430
434 Wyoming, USA
457 Holts Mar '19
485 Holts Mar '15
494 Bonhams 4/10
497 Holts Mar '18
523 Sotheby's Dec '88
588 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
604 England
657 Holts June 2019
687 Bonhams July 2004
718 James Julia spring '10
719 Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
736 East Yorkshire
757 Holts Sept 2019
861 Colorado, USA
967 Edinburgh
985 Bonhams 11/14
999 Guns International 4/18
1071 Texas, USA
1088 Guns International
1105 Bonhams 4/11
1168 Antony Cribb Ltd
1187 Kalamazoo, MI, USA
1214 James Julia Oct '15
1282 Northwest Territories, Canada
1290 1291 Sotheby's Mar '87
1312 James Julia spring '08
1345 Wisconsin, USA
1369 Christie's Dec '98
1421 James Julia fall '14
1445 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
1465 Edinburgh, Scotland
1516 Holts March 2019
1559 Holts Dec 2015
1561
1571
1606 James Julia spring '08
1653 Giles Marriott
1671 Australia
1710 Slovakia ?
1749 Bonhams 8/04
1759
1770 Holts Dec '06
1779 Christies Mar '02
1794
1831 gunsinternational.com
1871 Bonhams July 2004
1922
1923 Sotheby's Apr '89
2002 Holts Sep '07
2071
2098 Northwest Territories, Canada
2134 gunsinternational.com
2153 Italy
2170 Sotheby's 2001
2206 Holts Sep '06
2227 Arizona, USA
2311 BC, Canada
2322 Sotheby's Aug '02
2326 Holts Mar '07
2368 Wisconsin, USA
2375 James Julia spring '12
2393 Colorado, USA
2468 US
2474
2484
2548 James Julia Apr '17
2584 Virginia, USA
2603
2683 Bertram & Co.
2708 Holts Dec 2018
2733 James Julia
2758 Bonhams July 2004
2915 Gavin Gardiner Aug 2016
2977 Holts Dec 2015
2982 Holts Mar '16
3021 North Yorkshire
3035 James Julia Apr '17
3045 Australia
3048 Christie's Dec '06
3132 James Julia Mar '15
3149 Arizona, USA
3157 BC, Canada
3185 Colorado, USA
3210 James Julia Oct '17
3240
3285 James Julia fall '09
3306 Amoskeag auction 11/'19
3307 Amoskeag auction 11/'19
3316 James Julia fall '11
3339 Savannah, Georgia, USA
3377 Bonhams May 2000
3410 Christie's Apr '99
3585 Young's Auctions
3609 Christie's Sept '99
3622 gunsinternational.com
3654 James Julia spring '13
3686 Atlanta Georgia, USA
3687
3688
3766 Finland
3809 Australia
3812
3814 gunsinternational.com
3863 Massachusetts USA
3884
3932 Muskegon, Michigan, USA
3990 3991 Christie's Mar '02
4060 Montana, USA
4017
4018 Plymouth
4031 Colorado, USA
4195 Holts Sept '19
4209 Bonhams Nov '19
4244 South East Kansas, USA
4257 Ontario, Canada
4402 Holts Mar '15
4463 Sotheby's Aug '03
4509 Christie's Nov '95
4511 Colorado, USA
4621 Australia
4662 Museum of Edinburgh
4687 Holts Jun '07
4757 Holts Dec '19
4771 & 4772
4874
4884 Colorado
5039 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
5048 Sotheby's Aug '05
5071 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
5102 Colorado, USA
5116 Atlanta Georgia, USA
5123 Colorado, USA
5142 Michigan, USA
5152 Guns International
5163 Christie's Dec '98
5229 Northwest Territories, Canada
5273 Guns International
5289 Plymouth
5293 Oklahoma, USA
5298 England
5333 Scotland
5373
5393 Luper Auction Dec '19
5444 Wisconsin, USA
5493 Wisconsin, USA
5469 Holts Mar '11
5500 Hermann Historica auction, Munich Nov '18
5529 Colorado, USA
5554 Holts Dec '15
5556 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
5589
5619 Colorado, USA
5627 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
5629
5657 Sotheby's Aug '04
5660 Christie's Nov '95
5693 Finland
5672 Georgia, USA
5701 USA
5702 USA
5747 Guns International
5752 Gavin Gardiner Dec '07
5798
5816 New York State, USA
5828 Wisconsin, USA
5834 Rock Island auction
5852 Colorado, USA
5866 Bonhams 12/05
5871 5872 Christie's Sept '99
5905 Guns International
5923 Luper Auction Dec '19
5929 gunsinternational.com
5940 Sotheby's Apr '89
5956 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
5960 Finland
5977 Harrisburg USA
5987 Rock Island auction
6002 Bryanston, South Africa
6036 James Julia fall '09
6041 Christie's Dec '06
6083 Wisconsin, USA
6097 James Julia spring '09
6115 Virginia, USA
6123 Holts Dec '17
6160 WA, USA
6174 Bonhams Nov 2006
6181 USA
6198 Wisconsin, USA
6234 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
6277 Virginia, USA
6284 Plymouth
6311 Gavin Gardiner Apr '07
6354 Hyderabad, India 500-032
6408 gunsinternational.com
6410 Wisconsin, USA
6413 James Julia Apr '17
6418 Nelson, New Zealand
6449 Virginia, USA
6470 Canada
6473 James Julia Oct '13
6476 Wyoming, USA
6507
6538
6549 Victoria
6579 Wisconsin, USA
6580 El Dorado Hills, California, USA
6637 Pennsylvania, USA
6639 Colorado, USA
6665 Wisconsin, USA
6673 Australia
6677 Australia
6679 USA
6681 Sainte-Brigitte-de-Laval, Canada
6687
6701 Australia
6753 Gavin Gardiner Dec '07
6767 Christie's Dec '98
6774 Gavin Gardiner Dec '19
6808 Holts Dec '15
6811 Bonham's Nov 2000
6813
6814 Christie's Sept '99
6843 South Carolina, USA
6865 James Julia fall '09
6892 in 1974 catalogue
6898 Holts Mar '16
6927 James Julia fall '14
6928 Sotheby's Oct '90
6955 Bonhams SF, 6/16
7013
7037 Wisconsin, USA
7039 Holts Dec '19
7043 Guns International
7047 Holts Mar '16
7055 Las Vegas, NV, USA
7056
7092 New York, USA
7093 New York, USA
7113 & 7114 Guns International
7140 North Yorkshire
7150 Guns International
7215 Devon
7221 7222 in old catalogue 1982
7340 Christie's Jul '94
7355 Holts Mar '19
7433 Manchester, NH, US
7457
7698 Bryanston, South Africa
7709
7755 Museum of Edinburgh
7765 Gavin Gardiner sale
7894 US
7897 Bonhams Sept 1999
7984 Rock Island Auction April '18
8010 Gavin Gardiner sale
8048 Rock Island Auction April '18
8204
8343 Bonhams Sept 1999

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: RichB]
      #336145 - 05/01/20 06:33 AM

6120 Georgia, USA

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Re: Alexander Henry serial numbers inventory - update [Re: 85lc]
      #336187 - 05/01/20 08:22 PM

Thanks !

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