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Heelerau
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G Waller
      #333651 - 21/10/19 12:01 AM

Just won this from an interstate auction for a mate who wants a percussion sporting rifle. Should land here in the west in a couple of weeks. It is .52 and will be interesting to see whether it is for ball or conical. A light sporting rifle for deer, pig or antelope. Bit light for any dangerous game.
As an aside, am enjoying a reprint of Bakers The Rifle and Hound in Ceylon. G Waller Sporting Rifle by Gordon Hazel, on Flickr]web page[/url]

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Re: G Waller [Re: Heelerau]
      #333655 - 21/10/19 01:55 AM

Interesting, - could be a 2-groove for belted ball, I assume.
Nice looking rifle. Appears to have a 32" to 34" bl.
The twist should tell, for sure.

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tinker
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Re: G Waller [Re: DarylS]
      #333661 - 21/10/19 04:01 AM

Looks handy.
Please update us when it arrives.

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Heelerau
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Re: G Waller [Re: tinker]
      #333676 - 21/10/19 11:24 AM

Daryl, never thought of belted ball, that will be interesting if that is the case. Hopefully will land here next week. Will update.

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Re: G Waller [Re: Heelerau]
      #333995 - 29/10/19 11:43 AM

Nice, yes let us know.

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Re: G Waller [Re: cordite]
      #333996 - 29/10/19 11:46 AM

That looks like the twin to the one I bought a month ago.

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Heelerau
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Re: G Waller [Re: Wayne59]
      #334020 - 29/10/19 11:29 PM

Rifle arrive today. Cone u/s and the hammer is a replacement, looks the part but does not hit the cone. A trip to my blacksmith shop, removed the old cone, happened to have a new one of the correct type handy. l put the hammer in the post vice, heated it up and adjust the hammer a number of times till it now contacts the top of the cone in a proper manner. Snapped a few caps, gave the bore a good scrubbing. There is a little light pitting here and there but the bore will come up fine. It is rifled for patched ball.
This rifle is quite light, 6 1/2 lbs, it is also quite short. The twist is quite slow, maybe 1 in 60, narrow lands and grooves so patched ball. Looks like my .490 ball and a thick patch will be the go. Daryl if you see this post before this Saturday, what sort of charge? I am thinking of starting off with 55 grains of FFFg. I use 90 in my Missouri Plains rifle but that is an inch and a quarter across the flats. This barrel is quite light. There are no numbers on the rear sight leaves. So might start off a 30 yard off the bench. I imagine this light rifle was for shooting Deer in parks in England, but likely Kangas etc her down under.P1030330 by Gordon Hazel, on FlickrP1030331 by Gordon Hazel, on P1030328 by Gordon Hazel, on Flickr

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Re: G Waller [Re: Heelerau]
      #334029 - 30/10/19 02:57 AM

Yes, yes - very light. The small ball might work OK with thick patch and light loads, indeed.

I would think something like 60gr. to 75gr. 2F. Quite likely will shoot better, the more powder you put in it.

Even 75gr. 2F is not a very fast load, but should work for smaller game just fine.

Plans for the spring are finalizing, should be able to let you know some dates soon.

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Heelerau
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Re: G Waller [Re: DarylS]
      #334050 - 30/10/19 02:16 PM

Just checked out my powder flask, covers those nicely. The .490 is snugger rather than looser fit. I have a tendency to prefer smaller balls with thicker patches, seem to work best for me when hunting or plinking. Thanks for the info and look forward to the updates re trip down under.

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Re: G Waller [Re: Heelerau]
      #334051 - 30/10/19 02:51 PM

Looks great!

Light and handy.
Sounds really nice.

You'll know how it shoots soon enough.
Keep us posted.

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Heelerau
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Re: G Waller [Re: tinker]
      #334123 - 02/11/19 08:06 PM

Gentlemen, Dave and I took his Waller to the range today and woke it up ! 21/4 drams of Fg by mistake for the first couple shots, Dave took the first one on the bench at 50 m a 10 ! I wiped between shots and you could feel the roughness of the bore each time we loaded. The patches from left to right, the first couple shots chewed them up a bit, and as you can see by the last few shots the patches came out intact as the bore improved. Next time will fire some patches dressed with valve grind past instead of pulling the breach plug and see how that goes. Best 10 of 13 scored 90 ! between the pair of us. The rifle shot poa from the first shot, so sights still bang on. After the 3rd shot and I realised that it was Fg we swapped to same charge with FFg had to lower the poa to a fine sight with the black sitting on top. I think we will also try a greased felt wad over powder like I do with my FBG, which also has a bore that is a little rougher than ideal and seems to like that combination
P1030342 by Gordon Hazel, on FlickrP1030341 by Gordon Hazel, on Flickr

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Re: G Waller [Re: Heelerau]
      #334136 - 03/11/19 03:19 AM

Scotch Brite can be an amazing scrub for less than smooth bores. Looking good though. Glad it's working out.

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tinker
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Re: G Waller [Re: DarylS]
      #334139 - 03/11/19 04:21 AM

Looks good.

As Daryl noted, 3M Scotch Brite material can be good for a rough bore. I use WD-40 to wet the material while scrubbing.

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Heelerau
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Re: G Waller [Re: tinker]
      #334150 - 03/11/19 09:49 AM

Thanks for the interest Gentlemen, I have used scot bright in the bore already, but will give it some more work with oil. My Hollis got the same treatment and with use is getting better and better to load.
I will continue the scotch bright/WD40 and shooting it with a greased felt wad, I find that means I can keep loading it in the field with its own ramrod, I do the same with the Hollis and it seem to work well.

Cheers
Gordon

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Re: G Waller [Re: Heelerau]
      #334155 - 03/11/19 02:34 PM

Sounds great!

I can't wait to see how it goes for you as you shoot it more.

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Re: G Waller [Re: tinker]
      #334167 - 04/11/19 07:18 AM

Well done Heelaru!
That ol' girl can still sing a mean song....now for some pigs perhaps if you part of the country isn't too dry?

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Heelerau
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Re: G Waller [Re: 93x64mm]
      #337002 - 25/01/20 06:49 AM

I have to go down south to my brother in laws farms, there are pigs around my area, but its finding a farmer who will allow you to shoot on his property. I am investigating that avenue

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