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xausa
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #332509 - 18/09/19 11:03 PM

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if you looking for a new project 8x60S SN 125682




This appears to be a good example of what was being slapped together at the end of WW II: very late serial number with post 1932 proof marks, non matching military style bolt, pre WW I model set trigger. That said, something could definitely be done with it, provided the bore is useable.

The asking price is ridiculous.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #332517 - 19/09/19 03:56 AM

What is the deal with the striker extending past the cocking piece? I have never seen that before. Also, the safety looks like a Buehler safety.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #332573 - 21/09/19 02:38 AM

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What is the deal with the striker extending past the cocking piece? I have never seen that before. Also, the safety looks like a Buehler safety.




The longer firing pin is used with a longer cocking piece and usually paired with a cocking piece sight. My guess is both of those were removed when the Buehlar safety was added.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: bouldersmith]
      #332578 - 21/09/19 03:53 AM

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What is the deal with the striker extending past the cocking piece? I have never seen that before. Also, the safety looks like a Buehler safety.




The longer firing pin is used with a longer cocking piece and usually paired with a cocking piece sight. My guess is both of those were removed when the Buehlar safety was added.


Thanks. You are probably correct.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #332975 - 04/10/19 06:43 AM

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101304170


Check this out!!



Weren't most mauser 404s marked with the metric designation?


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xausa
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: wkudu]
      #333159 - 08/10/19 03:58 AM

I couldn't believe that an 80+ year old rifle could be in such good condition, so I consulted Jon Speed for his opinion. Much to my surprise, Jon said that upon seeing the rifle on GI, he immediately notified a collector friend, who immediately purchased it, settling the question once and for all at least in my mind. I actually had a phone call from Jon this morning which lasted quite some time and was very wide ranging in subject matter. I hope he enjoyed it as much as I did.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333177 - 08/10/19 10:55 AM

A wondeful example......hard to find in this condition

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: paradox_]
      #333188 - 08/10/19 04:02 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Thanks for sharing WKudu.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Homer]
      #333247 - 09/10/19 02:35 PM

Now here's one I've never seen before!
TypeB with a long full length octagon barrel in 10.75X68.
A bit odd but what a rifle!

https://auktion.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/h19/kulgevar/5874_2

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #333256 - 09/10/19 08:01 PM

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Now here's one I've never seen before!
TypeB with a long full length octagon barrel in 10.75X68.
A bit odd but what a rifle!

https://auktion.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/h19/kulgevar/5874_2



I don't see an octagonal barrel, just a standard round one with some light reflections.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #333263 - 09/10/19 11:05 PM

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Quote:

Now here's one I've never seen before!
TypeB with a long full length octagon barrel in 10.75X68.
A bit odd but what a rifle!

https://auktion.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/h19/kulgevar/5874_2



I don't see an octagonal barrel, just a standard round one with some light reflections.


Look at photo #2: it clearly shows the transition from round to octagon.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #333268 - 10/10/19 04:12 AM

The octagonal portion of the barrel doesn't begin until after the round portion which starts at the receiver ring and goes under the rear sight sleeve, so you might say that the barrel is round, octagonal and round again. The barrel itself looks exceptionally long to me. The description says 70 cm, which translates into 27.55", and octagonal.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333283 - 10/10/19 12:55 PM

Looks to be round just out past the sight and then octagonal the rest of the way.













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #333310 - 11/10/19 01:00 PM

Can somebody who knows comment on the trigger. Is this a factory arrangement.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: prairie_ghost]
      #333311 - 11/10/19 02:33 PM

It looks like a double set trigger with the rear trigger removed. I'm not sure what kind of a trigger pull that arrangement would produce, but I wouldn't want to use it. There would be no direct connection between trigger and sear.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333312 - 11/10/19 04:23 PM

Yes, it is a DST setup with the set trigger removed.




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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333313 - 11/10/19 04:23 PM

The trigger pull of just the front trigger is usually hard with long travel before "breaking".
It was on my 9.3x62.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333316 - 11/10/19 04:53 PM


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It looks like a double set trigger with the rear trigger removed. I'm not sure what kind of a trigger pull that arrangement would produce, but I wouldn't want to use it. There would be no direct connection between trigger and sear.




It's a first type Oberndorf German double set trigger that has lost its rear cocking trigger.
The second type has a different front trigger shape.
They are fully machined in the upper side of the trigger guard.
This system was widely used on continental rifles.
With the rear trigger you set the mechanism and pulling the front one fires the rifle.
When set the pull is extremely light.
A long and heavy pull on the front trigger can also fire the gun.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #333510 - 17/10/19 05:16 AM

10,75x68, SN 83081
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7663005











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #333930 - 28/10/19 06:56 AM

think many of you have seen this
MAUSER OBERNDORF AFRICAN MODEL SPORTING RIFLE https://simpsonltd.com/mauser-oberndorf-african-model-sporting-rifle-c42349/

8x57mmS; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent stock, 28'' barrel, Manufactured in 1908. This is a numbers matching rifle. Listed by serial number in John Speed's book as 7x57 (In ERROR?) The metal finish is in excellent condition. The bore is in excellent bright condition. The excellent fancy stock has sling swivels, a checkered wrist and a right hand cheek pad. It has a minor chip in the buttplate on the toe. Beautiful rifle., s/n 198xx

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #333980 - 29/10/19 04:39 AM

There is no denying that the rifle Awesome! But, is that price realistic? The last couple I saw sold in the $7-10,000 range.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: LSHopper]
      #334033 - 30/10/19 04:17 AM

we will watch what happens, usually after some months without sale price will going down at simpson

yes, think its a little bit high

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #334950 - 29/11/19 12:29 AM

7x64, SN 124554
sold by Springer's Erben in Vienna once
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...;currentpos=312



60 cm barrel, open sights with additional folding leaf, double set trigger, flag type safety and sliding tang safety, hinged magazine floorplate with release in trigger guard, walnut stock, fore-end with horn tip, fine chequering, pistol grip with horn cap, oval cheekpiece, rubber recoil pad 35,5 cm (damaged), Viennese claw mounted Kahles Heliavier, reticule 7A, (focus gummed), German proof before 1945, year of manufacture not visible, condition 3.

will not end by the 250 euro starting bid I presume

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #334969 - 29/11/19 06:47 AM

Very nice looking rifle, with nice wood. It just looks good.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #335019 - 29/11/19 11:02 PM

yes, its a very nice mauser,
we will see what it sold for

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