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DORLEAC
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308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC
      #332428 - 17/09/19 04:06 AM


A handy .308W stocked to the muzzle rifle built on a very special Original Mauser intermediate solid wall square bridge action.
I already know that my American friends - and some others too - will growl because of the scope size: a Zeiss HT 1,5-6x42 with illuminated reticle.
It is indubitable that the small size of this stutzen makes the glass appear bigger, but it is an excellent optics, a quality so far unmatched in its class of magnifications ... and above all it's the customer choice who wants to be able to use that kind of all around Continental rifle as well at dawn in the morning than at dusk at late night.
The rifle is not treated luxuriously but in the simplest way with a lot of attention to detail. The forend is divided into two parts to avoid the tensions harmful to accuracy and the bluing is a soft slow rust one.

Regards to all.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332435 - 17/09/19 06:02 AM

Looks to me like a very handy hunting rifle. I personally see nothing wrong with the scope's size.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DarylS]
      #332437 - 17/09/19 06:35 AM

Beautiful Joel, and on such a rare action. It must be hard for you when one of these very rare pieces comes in to not want to keep it for yourself, unless the customer owned it in the first place of course. Superb finish and beautifully proportioned. I like the scope as well as I also use a 1.5-6x42 for a lot of my hunting, they are a great scope. Super job.

Some of the photos have not opened up, at least for me.

Matt.

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Edited by Waidmannsheil (17/09/19 06:36 AM)

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #332438 - 17/09/19 06:59 AM

Quote:

It must be hard for you when one of these very rare pieces comes in to not want to keep it for yourself, unless the customer owned it in the first place of course....Matt.



I'm glad to have a few rare Original Mauser actions in stock for future projects but the supply is drying.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332444 - 17/09/19 12:35 PM

Another stunning rifle!
I never tire of seeing the superb style and execution of your workmanship!
Scope looks fine to this American.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #332446 - 17/09/19 01:21 PM


That is absolutely delicious.

Attention to detail, indeed.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #332447 - 17/09/19 01:34 PM

This rifle should been ordered by a finnish customer. That´s why this named caliber is still a kind of "holy" one here i.e most common for allround hunting.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Igorrock]
      #332453 - 17/09/19 05:51 PM

Lovely stutzen Joel.

Yes I will growl and would go for a smaller scope.

I noticed the rear sights were further back than usual, then saw they are part of the QD scope bases as well. Haven't seen that before.

Thanks for posting Joel. Another of your rifle artworks. Hopefully your dwindling supply of Mauser actions lasts out. For me oneday!

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: NitroX]
      #332455 - 17/09/19 07:25 PM

G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Thank You for sharing Joel.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Homer]
      #332460 - 17/09/19 10:54 PM

I have never seen a more beautiful stutzen it is absolutely a work of art! Most of the time I tend to prefer smaller scopes but, in this case, this one just seems to fit.

Edited by JDL (17/09/19 10:57 PM)

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: JDL]
      #332569 - 20/09/19 10:13 PM

Congratulations on this lovely rifle, Joël; that's a real gem!
May I ask wether you kept the original trigger or set a more sophisticated modern one?
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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Louis]
      #332621 - 23/09/19 01:58 AM

In my eyes the most desirable 98 action ( aesthetcally , strength and function) they ever made.
I searched for more than 35 years without success such a action in acceptable condition.
As ever perfect execution.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: justcurious]
      #332626 - 23/09/19 05:43 AM

Hello Mr. Dorleac,

Congratulation. Fantastic rifle!
I have a question: This action was in an original Mauser Original Sporting rifle? The original barrel was dead? Was a 7x57 rifle?
Thank you!
And CONGRATULATION, again, for such a lovely Mauser rifle!

PH

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #332627 - 23/09/19 06:04 AM

Intermediate action was exclusively used for 7x57 IIRC.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: justcurious]
      #332639 - 23/09/19 08:56 PM

Hello justcurious,

Have seen here many Original Sporting Mauser rifles, with this Intermediate lenght action, in distinct configurations, chambered for "our" 7,65x54 Mauser. Most of them marked "7,65 Turk".
So, it is sure Mauser used these two chamberings un this type of Intermediate action. I don't know if there are others chamberings used with it.
I know three military Mausers first used this action:
1903 Turk 7,65x54
1909 Peruvian 7,65x54
Don't remember the year, the few Paraguayan 7x57.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #332641 - 23/09/19 10:17 PM

I only refer to the Commercial Oberndorf sporters.

Don´t know if any Commercial Oberndorf sporter in 7,65 Belgium aka Argentine existed. If so ,they certainly used an intermediate length action.

Maybe a few have been made.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: justcurious]
      #332644 - 23/09/19 11:38 PM

Of course the intermediate Mauser action isn't the most common system produced at Oberndorf.
There are military versions including the 7.65×53 1909 Peruvian that use the same type of action but for commercial original versions I have only encountered them chambered for the 7x57 round.
The one used here is quite special since it's both solid wall and square bridge.
I got it in dismantling a butchered rifle that had been re-barreled in 6,5x57 since, until a few years ago, the 7x57 was considered a military cartridge and banned in France.
We try to maintain a small stock of original commercial Mauser systems but it becomes everyday more difficult, the owners thinking they have an extremely valuable rifle when it bears the Mauser Werke or Waffenfabrik Mauser marks…!
If you add the purchase price to the working time for true blue printing, I understand why many colleagues opt for the easing of modern manufacture clones.
Fortunately for us there isn't yet intermediate length action produced.
As a reminder, the majority of "real" .275 Rigby made before the war used such an intermediate action ... nothing to do with their current production which is an unfortunate copy, bigger and heavier and which does not have the charm of true period stalking rifles.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332647 - 24/09/19 01:46 AM

Thank you Mr. DORLEAC!

As I salid, here in Argentina, the Original Sporting Mauser most often encountered is the 7,65 Mauser made with the Intermediate action!
Just for the récord, this is one of a friend.

Best regards

PH

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #332654 - 24/09/19 03:39 AM

Very interesting specimen !
Do you think it would be possible to get pictures of the various markings and proof marks ?
I'm sure that Jon Speed would be delighted to see that.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332657 - 24/09/19 04:02 AM

I have just start another thread to not interfere with your here. I uploaded the marks of two 7,65 one with 2X.XXX and the other with 10X.XXX ranges serial numbers.
As I said before, I have seen MANY 7,65 Mauser rifles here, both Stutzen and Rifles with the normal 60 cm barrel lenght. All made with Intermediate Turk or Peruvian type actions.

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PH

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332670 - 24/09/19 11:03 AM

Agreed, I am also surprised that the modern manufacturers such as Mayfair Engineering have not opted to also include an intermediate length action in their line-up as it would be the perfect length for a number of cartridges, 7x57 being the obvious one.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #332673 - 24/09/19 04:34 PM

Matt, I think that the vast majority of today's modern Mauser-like rifles (incl. Rigby) buyers are "Mauser Oberndorf illiterate" and are not even aware that original Oberndorf commercial actions were made into different sizes; there is therefore no obvious reason for modern manufacturers to multiply production lines and incur additional costs that would impact on their profit. I am sure that rifles produced nowadays with such modern actions are well manufactured however they will always, for those who know, lack the charm of original pre-WW2 rifles. On the same way than a pair of Crockett & Jones manufactured in Eastern Europe (this has not yet happened) would never be the same than an 'original' one manufactured in Northampton!
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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #332674 - 24/09/19 07:18 PM


Mayfair Engineering actions are superbely made and well heat treated but they weight a lot more than the Original Mauser commercial ones. We have used a southpaw kurz from them and with its large ring receiver and all the metal left on the underside the whole was heavier than a magnum system manufactured before WW2....

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Louis]
      #332838 - 30/09/19 08:54 PM

Louis, I understand what you are saying however one of the advantages today is that the modern machinery is a lot more flexible than in the past where special purpose machines had to be built for every step. Multi-axis CNC machines, EDM technology and CAD CAM have made small production runs cost effective. Maybe not so much for the more volume orientated models such as the Highland Stalker but certainly for the London Best models where a few hundred pounds extra won't make any difference.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332839 - 30/09/19 08:58 PM

Joel, that is a real pity as they are one of the actions that is easier for us to be able to import into Australia. Strange that they should be so heavy as Mayfair like all the others claim that their actions are dimensional copies of the originals, other than the safety and trigger.

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