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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #328794 - 25/05/19 04:57 AM

W.Collath Söhne Drilling , 12ga +8x57IR, SN 22707
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...626&image=1














Double gun W. Collath Söhne 16/65 , SN 19724
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7484953











W. Collath single shot rifle, ex 9,3x65R Collath now 5,6x50R, SN 15967
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7484939#img


























Drilling W. Collath 12/65 + 9,3x82R,
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7484968#img
















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      #329484 - 20/06/19 04:01 AM

never say never - a W. Collath Söhne double gun for the 8/83 (3 3/4") cartridge, SN 22370
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7522540













comes with 50 cartridges, seller writes he shoot his christmas goose year after year with this gun

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      #330205 - 17/07/19 04:43 AM

W. Collath Söhne, ex combination gun for 16 ga and maybe something like 9,3x72R, SN 19031
rebuild in 1981 for 16/70 and 5,6x50R in a liner, ugly new made stock than
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7554623



















































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      #331285 - 17/08/19 02:31 PM

Drilling W.Collath,16/65 + 9,3x72R, SN 16802
original No. 3 and 9,3x65R, shotgun chambers for the No. 3 / 14 ga have a adapter sleeve soft soldered - seller says it works fine
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7585248













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      #331812 - 31/08/19 10:21 PM

double rifle W. Collath Söhne 9.3x74R, SN 21512
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7606020











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W. COLLATH 12-BORE 'C. 12' TESCHNER-COLLATH PATENT SLIDE AND TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR, serial no. 16472, 29 1/2in. black powder only reproved damascus barrels (some pits), file-cut matt rib, 2 1/2in. chambers, bored approx. 1/2 and full choke, right wall at 19, Collath patent action, horn and steel lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever, fixed integral fore-end, manual 'wingnut' safety, horn triggerguard, border and acanthus scroll engraving, 13 1/4in. stock including cheekpiece and horn buttplate,sling swivels, weight 6lb. 3oz.

https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...2&saletype=

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      #333602 - 19/10/19 06:31 AM

W. Collath double gun 16/65, SN 17668
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...mp;currentpos=1





W.Collath Drlling 16/65 + 9,3x72R, SN 12559
http://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/ind...&Itemid=120

























very rare W. Collath Söhne toplever drilling, 16x 7x57R plus another barrels 16x9,3x72R
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/kipplaufgewehre/collath-drilling-tesco--138821











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      #334085 - 01/11/19 12:07 AM

more pice for the top lever drilling
SN is 19064 W.Collath Söhne also for the 7x57 19064, the other barrels with 9,3x72R seems to be old but reworked for this drilling with SN 11803.
maybe the owner of this drilling had the gun 11803 before and it came out of service for some reason so the old barrels was fitted to the new gun and he could use the old 9,3 ammo






















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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #335373 - 12/12/19 03:52 PM

W.Collath Söhne 16 ga (?) https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101329156















Drilling W. Collath Söhne 16 + 6,5x58R

https://www.naturabuy.fr/Ancien-fusil-ch...em-6052413.html






















combination gun "M. Scvaas (sp?) Frankfurt, 16-gauge, SxS, hammerless, dual triggers. no front sight, engraved, top lever release. Checkered hand grip. cheek rest on stock, metal butt plate. SN: 235, JMD Oval Tag: 6805" https://holabirdamericana.liveauctiongro...12240_i33855803

could be a collath copy, were made by more than one maker than






W.Collath Söhne double gun 16 ga, SN 21455
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...0&saletype=



W. Collath 12 ga ( C.12)double gun, SN 16472
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...2&saletype=




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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #335891 - 27/12/19 05:18 PM

an w. collath action for a double gun, SN 12803 and C 16 for 16 ga
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7771445















W.Collath Söhne, Drilling 16 ga + 9,3x65R,
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7767779



























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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #335901 - 27/12/19 10:23 PM

If this one is the rimmed version of Herr Brenneke's 9.3x64mm case, it will certainly have a lot of clout!
Not so much for the Collath version - but still a most handsome drilling to say the least!
Virtually unheard of in our country!


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      #335907 - 28/12/19 02:08 AM

That drilling in 9.3x65

It looks like it's had some issues at the head of the stock.

The current bid is pretty low.
I often look at these auctions and wonder how much additional money and time to get it from Europe to the USA

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      #336135 - 04/01/20 05:51 PM

W.Collath Söhne combination gun with double gun barrels, 6,5x58R + 16/65, SN 22553
http://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/ind...&Itemid=120































rare W.Collath Söhne 12 ga toplever double gun
http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/360098-brokovnice-dvojka-gollath/







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      #336989 - 25/01/20 04:15 AM

W.Collath Söhne Drilling, 7x57R +16 ga, SN 20422
Ajack 4x90
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8143172









without pics but
W. Collath,Drilling 8x57R 360 +16 ga, SN 17194 "KAROL BIRTUS, TARNAU"
https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/teschner-collath-frankfurt-oder-karl-birtus-tarnau-mod-42977898





W.Collath Söhne Drilling, 9,3x72R +16 ga SN 18809
https://www.icollector.com/W-Collath-Soh...lling_i23820402















W.Collath Söhne Drilling 8x72R +16 ga, SN 17264(??)
https://www.icollector.com/Fine-Early-German-Drilling-by-W-Collath-Sohne_i21575744
















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      #336994 - 25/01/20 05:29 AM

another one of the sn problems

W. Colalth Söhne Drilling, 8x72R x16ga SN 17944
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/51872-58-397/











W.Collath double gun, No. 3, SN 16813
https://www.icollector.com/Four-European...otgun_i18634494



















W.Collath Söhne, Drilling 9(9,3) + 16ga, SN 18207
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/W.-COLLATH-SOHNE-FRANKFURT-A.O.-16-GA.-9MM_80C4895BF9/







W.Collath, Drilling, 11x65R + No. 4, SN 11246
https://www.k-bid.com/auction/10406/item/1



































W.Collath Söhne, Drilling, 9,3x65R x 12 ga, SN 19632
https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8240315







W.Collath Büchsflinte 24ga bullet cartridge + C.3 ; SN 4556
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=357045
and no, the trigger guard is not original


























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      #337941 - 15/02/20 06:29 AM

very early W. Collath double gun 12 ga( No.1), SN 3366
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1034/4197/engraved-collath-damascus-double-barrel-shotgun





W.Collath Söhne toplever drilling, 9,3x72R x 16 ga with post war made barrels, 7x57R, 222 and 16ga
SN looks like 18 or 19112
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/kipplaufgewehre/collath-drilling-tesco--138821










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      #338267 - 23/02/20 06:27 AM

W.Collath Drilling , 9,3x80R +16/70( changed - not original), SN 15998
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8186610









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      #339273 - 22/03/20 05:43 PM

W.Collath combination gun 16g + 9,3x72R, SN 12540
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...;currentpos=176






W.Collath double gun 12/65, SN 11280
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=225







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      #339934 - 09/04/20 05:01 AM

W. Collath double gun 16 ga, SN 14681
https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt...llath&o=neu



















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      #340059 - 14/04/20 02:06 AM

W. COLLATH 20-BORE TESCHNER-COLLATH PATENT SLIDE AND TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR, serial no. 561, 28in. sleeved nitro barrels, 2 1/2in. chambers, bored approx. 1/4 and 3/4 choke, Collath patent action, horn and steel Lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever, fixed integral fore-end, manual 'wingnut' safety, horn triggerguard, border and foliate engraving surrounding game scenes, bright finish, 13 1/4in. figured pistolgrip stock (cracked and repaired at head), including horn buttplate, with cheekpiece and horn pistolgrip cap, sling swivels, weight 6lb.

https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...6&saletype=




E. SCHEINERT 16-BORE TESCHNER -COLLATH PATENT SLIDE AND TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR, serial no. 24813, 25 5/8in. nitro barrels, 2 1/2in. chambers, bored approx. 3/4 choke in both, Collath patent action, horn and steel Lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever, fixed integral fore-end, cocking indicator studs, manual tang-mounted safety, border and foliate engraving surrounding game scenes, 13 3/4in. semi-pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, sling swivels, including buttplate, weight 6lb. 2oz., in a leather leg of mutton case
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...201&image=1






W. COLLATH 12-BORE 'C. 12' TESCHNER-COLLATH PATENT SLIDE AND TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR, serial no. 16472, 29 1/2in. black powder only reproved damascus barrels (some pits), file-cut matt rib, 2 1/2in. chambers, bored approx. 1/2 and full choke, right wall at 19, Collath patent action, horn and steel lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever, fixed integral fore-end, manual 'wingnut' safety, horn triggerguard, border and acanthus scroll engraving, 13 1/4in. stock including cheekpiece and horn buttplate,sling swivels, weight 6lb. 3oz.
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...2&saletype=



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      #341072 - 13/05/20 01:38 PM

sold as a collath patent it look to me like a suhl made copy, 16 ga sold by W.A.Tank in Leipzig
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/867132089



























real guns are named like this 12 ga W.Collath https://www.gunbroker.com/item/862854438

























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      #341079 - 14/05/20 06:19 AM

What a wonderful reservoir of knowledge you are creating here Lancaster!
The Damascus work is fantastic, now a lost art on how they did it!


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      #341080 - 14/05/20 06:30 AM

They are lovely, indeed.

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      #344279 - 12/08/20 04:13 AM

W. Collath drilling C3 + 11,15x65R, SN 9590
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876432429





































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      #346110 - 24/10/20 05:03 AM

14 ga so a No 3 Collath caliber http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/457683-prodam-brokovnici-hamerlesku-14-70/







W.Collath Söhne combination gun 16/70 +5,6x50R,SN 19031 + 6488?
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12742653

clearly restocked, the bigger rifle barrel (9,3?) got a liner in 5,6x50R so it can be the reason for the second SN































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      #346948 - 19/11/20 05:16 AM

W.Collath Söhne vierling, 12 ga+12ga+8x57IR +5,6x35R, SN 22707

https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...626&image=9




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A SCARCE 12-BORE / 12-BORE / 8X57JR / 5.6X35MM TESCHNER-COLLATH PATENT SLIDE-AND-TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR VIERLING, serial no. 22707,
23 5/8in. nitro reproved (in 2020) Krupp-steel barrels with raised matt rib, folding leaf sight, missing bead fore-sight, the breech end mounted with a Zeiss Diatal-Z 4x32 telescopic sight in quickly-detachable mounts, tubes stamped 'TESCO' and 'W. COLLATH - SOHNE - FRANKFURT A/O PRIMA-KRUPPSTAHL', 2 1/2in. shot chambers, bored approx. 1/2 choke in both, lightweight alloy Collath patent action with removable protruding bosses, and removable striker discs, relief engraved game scenes amid oak leaves and acorns, red deer to the left, wild boar to the right, the standing breech with a roe buck, the top tang with a capercaillie and a rabbit, the underside with a small deer all on a matt background, the action signed 'W. COLLATH. SOHNE FRANKFURT A.O', horn and steel lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever, fixed integral fore-end, manual 'wingnut' safety, set triggers, horn triggerguard with side-mounted barrel selector levers, 14 3/4in. figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, fluted horn pistolgrip-cap, sling swivels and including 3/4in. rubber recoil pad, insert repair to left edge of bar wood, weight 6lb. 15oz. (unscoped) and 7lb. 14oz. (with scope)

Estimate £4,000-6,000

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