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rpeck



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Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock
      #330923 - 08/08/19 01:50 AM

W. J. JEFFERY & Co. Mannlicher built on a Steyr Model 1892. Caliber .256 Mannlicher (6.5x53R)
Barrel Marked "(SIGHTED AND SHOT BY) W.J. JEFFERY & Co. 60 QUEEN VICTORIA ST. LONDON"
24" barrel.









Edited by rpeck (09/08/19 09:56 PM)

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Ripp
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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: rpeck]
      #330924 - 08/08/19 03:13 AM

That's a really cool looking rifle..thx for posting..

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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: Ripp]
      #330928 - 08/08/19 06:18 AM

Never seen a Jeffery rifle stocked like this before, almost like a 'musket' stock that you see on some Winchesters?
It certainly is in a most wonderful condition for its age - very, very neat indeed!

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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: 93x64mm]
      #330944 - 08/08/19 07:55 PM

Congratulations on your very nice rifle; you were already known on the forum for your pristine Mauser 66 and Mannlichers will be a new string to your bow!
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rpeck



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other version [Re: Louis]
      #330948 - 09/08/19 12:01 AM

I have another more "normal" version as well. The 26 in. barrel is stamped: "SHOT & REGULATED BY ARMY & NAVY. C. S. L. LONDON









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Re: other version [Re: rpeck]
      #330950 - 09/08/19 01:51 AM

The more, the merrier; another very smart rifle!
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Re: other version [Re: Louis]
      #330952 - 09/08/19 03:05 AM

Quote:

Never seen a Jeffery rifle stocked like this before, almost like a 'musket' stock that you see on some Winchesters?


Another Jeffery rifle with such a "musket stock" is shown in this picture, though it is not a Mannlicher M92, but a Mannlicher – Schoenauer M1900 in 6.5x54 M-S.

The rifle is obviously mounted with Jeffery's early idea of scope and mount.

This was the favorite rifle of Major Percy Horace Gordon Powell-Cotton (1866 – 1940) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Powell-Cotton .
Later, he had the foreend shortened to "normal" rifle half stock length. Some years ago I saw that rifle at the Powell-Cotton Museum, Quex Park, Kent. The museum is the giant "Trophy Rooms" of the great hunter and explorer, a "must see" for anyone visiting southeast England.
http://www.quexpark.co.uk/museum/

BTW, Westley Richards offered a similar stock configuration with 21" barrel in their 1912 catalog:

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Re: other version [Re: rpeck]
      #330955 - 09/08/19 05:01 AM

Quote:

I have another more "normal" version as well. The 26 in. barrel is stamped: "SHOT & REGULATED BY ARMY & NAVY. C. S. L. LONDON






my own long time restoration project









is "Shot & Sighted by Holland & Holland 98 New Bond Street London "




Steyr 1893 action

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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: rpeck]
      #331024 - 10/08/19 04:14 PM

A very nice if somewhat uncommon with a near full length stock, which the British definitely did not favor. This one however looks very nice especially with the twin wedges.
I particularly like the Army & Navy model which looks quite similar to my Jeffery. \
Both are very nice, well done.


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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #331033 - 11/08/19 03:11 PM

Thats a variation Ive not seen before.......congraulations, a very nice find!

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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: paradox_]
      #331037 - 11/08/19 11:59 PM

A note on the Army & Navy rifle:

The Army and Navy Co-Operative Society Ltd was formed in 1871 by British Army and Naval officers to supply articles of general use to society members at the lowest prices. The first store opened in 1872 at Victoria Street, London. By 1873, the store offered stationery, a drapery, fancy goods, tailoring, groceries, a chemist and a gun department. Membership was restricted to officers, non-commissioned officers and their families. (Friends could join by introduction and officials from the civil service could also join.) The Society grew to be a very large concern with depots at important army bases and naval ports. With a large demand from members in India, a store was opened in Bombay in 1891 and Calcutta in 1901.By the end of the 19th century the Society had a large annual illustrated catalogue.



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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: rpeck]
      #331054 - 12/08/19 04:59 AM

its of topic here but I talk with kuduae about it and my two mannlicher's. instead of send him the pics alone I can post it here:
a 6,5 sold by H&H and a .375 by Wilkenson



what I call a Steyr 1892 is in fact a model 1892 and the built year is hidden now under the side mount
so it can be...




someone telling me the eagle stamp was a romania stamp and the crossed swords was a british stamp




if so this could be one of the 5000 rifles production overrun they made in 1992 when romania take only 5000 for a trial. probably all 10000 made in 1892 got this stamp when made in the steyr factory.




the second rifle is a 1893 made model 1892( not marked as such on the receiver).
problem is they don't need any rifles M 1892 in 1893 because there was only an order from romania for the different model 1893 that is NOT a M 1892
so without an order it seems this rifle was made in 1893 only to sell it on the civilian market.



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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: lancaster]
      #331086 - 13/08/19 05:23 AM

Lars, have you found suitable upper mounts for those rifles ? If not, Luppe would have one for that lower one.

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Re: Victorian-era English .256 Mannlicher w/musket stock [Re: Igorrock]
      #331091 - 13/08/19 06:16 AM

no problemo, the wilkenson came with the sidemount and a Ajack post war made pre war model scope. the H&H side mount is primitiv if you compare it with a claw mount and very easy to replicate.

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