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JDL
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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: Louis]
      #330605 - 26/07/19 10:58 PM

Well done lancaster! My hat is off to you sir.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: JDL]
      #334747 - 23/11/19 07:34 AM

iron sight and the ring for the sling ring soft soldered









the front sight is only half way in the base because it must go out again when the rifle is blued. time to start the full stock.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #340811 - 06/05/20 12:40 PM

Any updates on this build, Lancaster? I've found this to be one of the most interesting and inventive projects I've seen in ages. I compliment you on your ingenuity! I can't wait to see more.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: vykkagur]
      #340812 - 06/05/20 02:13 PM

unfortunately not, rifle goes to the gunmaker to get a higher front sight because it shoots 11 cm low on 50 meter with iron sights.

stutzen stock have little progress but because nobody sends me home in corona times ...

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #340819 - 06/05/20 06:50 PM

Lars, I think you need a lower front sight, not a higher one, to move the point of impact up.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: xausa]
      #340826 - 07/05/20 12:30 AM

of course, your are right - lower front if available or higher rear sight

iirc, he will weld on to get the rear sight higher

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #340849 - 07/05/20 03:01 PM

Quote:

unfortunately not, rifle goes to the gunmaker to get a higher front sight because it shoots 11 cm low on 50 meter with iron sights.

stutzen stock have little progress but because nobody sends me home in corona times ...





So many people sitting at home complaining about "nothing to do", and someone so inventive with so many things on the go can't catch a break. Go figure. Please keep us updated when you get the chance, Lancaster. It's great to see some genuine DIY gunsmithing projects, as opposed to the usual "I'm on a two-year waiting list with this-years' world-famous gunmaker to spend the price of a BMW on my latest custom rifle." Gives us little people something to aim for....



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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: vykkagur]
      #343420 - 20/07/20 01:22 PM

I really like this project, never thought of using a Carcano for that chambering. I sure hope no one trys to pass off a rifle to me I have enough to do now.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: Rolland]
      #344667 - 30/08/20 05:42 AM

finally find the time to shape the stutzen stock












will be ready to get a checkering, steel can be blued now

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #344668 - 30/08/20 05:45 AM

Very nice. I love the shape of the stock.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #344670 - 30/08/20 07:41 AM

Very nice indeed. What checkering are you using on the stock?

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: Rule303]
      #344672 - 30/08/20 10:06 AM

VERY IMPRESSIVE! Im jealous. We have a Carcarno TS model in the shop. Id never consider it for a sporter because its in decent military shape; but I have thought about cleaning it up (restoring as a military gun).

Sometimes there are too many projects staring at me on the shelves. We just took in a Argentine Carbine thats begging to be sporterized. The receiver crest has been scrubbed and the front sight nose cap is missing. The owner has it on consignment with us but thinks its worth a fortune. If it sits for awhile, Im gonna make him an (low) offer thats more in keeping with its actual worth. It make a nice woods carbine.

Lancaster, I dont have your skills; but we do think alike. I love the full length stock and butterknife bolt handle

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #345051 - 13/09/20 04:34 AM

thank you for the flowers but beside of Mister Dorleac I am a very small number

look at classic rifles and just start, you will become better with every new project.
if I find a sporterized Model 91 argentine mauser it would be very hard to resist.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #345052 - 13/09/20 05:07 AM

Quote:

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if I find a sporterized Model 91 argentine mauser it would be very hard to resist.




I agree, its very sad that most of them available had the crest ground off the receiver ring.


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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: LRF]
      #345061 - 13/09/20 10:38 AM

Wow,,,best looking Carcano I've ever seen.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #345066 - 13/09/20 04:22 PM

learning from older
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=186099&an=0&page=3#Post186099

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #345067 - 13/09/20 04:50 PM

G'day Lancaster. I am stunned at just how well those rifles have turned out. I can only imagine the effort involved. The first centrefire rifle I ever owned was a Carcano carbine. My father bought it for me when I was about 13. I remember the day well...it was a Saturday and we were going fishing. We pulled into the garage to fuel the boat up on the way to the ramp.And, when the old man came out of the shop after paying for the fuel he was carrying a Carcano carbine and a box (50) of surplus ammo, with clips!. He handed the pile over and said "there you go son". I was fairly happy boy! I'm fairly sure it was something like $39 for the lot. They were the good old days...no licensing and many a small shop or garage sold rifles and ammo. YAHOO !

Anyway, about 2 hours later I was out of ammo...and my ears still haven't stopped ringing. Still brings a smile to my face when I think about it....and I often wonder what I did to my old man to upset him that bad..that he bought me a Carcano to shoot.Ha Ha Ha. I reckon I fired no more than 200 rounds through her. Accuracy was at best tin can size group at 50 yards. Functionality...not good. Gave it to a mate a few years later. I rated it as a great "Garden Stake" and to this day I do not know how that flame thrower didn't start a bush fire. Talk about muzzle flash.

Anyway mate. You've certainly turned a pigs ear into a beautiful silk purse.

Thanks for the post.

Cheers
Rod


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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: Rod4861]
      #345068 - 13/09/20 05:05 PM

Really, really, superb work Lancaster and perfect result; nothing else to say!
Louis

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: Louis]
      #345261 - 22/09/20 08:56 PM

Hi Lancaster,

I just read this thread from start to the present (didn't say finish)! What an interesting project. It certainly shows your creativity.

Have you had the rifle to the range? I would be interested to have an accuracy report.

Also, I was interested to see Rod's report that the CZ527 gives feeding problems. Though I never have seen, handled, nor shot one of those rifles, I have often thought it would be a great "woods loafing" rifle.

I do have experience with the .300 AAC Blackout. What a great cartridge it is! It can duplicate all the ballistics of the 7.62x39 with a straight bodied case (slight bottleneck) formed from 5.56 brass. It will feed in any action that will eat .223.

Keep us informed as this Carcano project comes to completion.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: CptCurl]
      #345267 - 23/09/20 04:28 AM

had the rifle on the range, try different cartridges
best group was made by 1960s soviet tula military ammo

just want to see if the iron sights were right. little bit low but I have another lower front sight now that will doing it, hopefully.
the stutzenstock is by a lady now who make the checkering for me. she asked if she can take the stock to a show in november were she will work in front of visitors and I agree, why not.
I am a little bit short of time now but believe the rifle will be blued until christmas.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #345278 - 24/09/20 12:17 AM

Quote:

had the rifle on the range, try different cartridges
best group was made by 1960s soviet tula military ammo

just want to see if the iron sights were right. little bit low but I have another lower front sight now that will doing it, hopefully.
the stutzenstock is by a lady now who make the checkering for me. she asked if she can take the stock to a show in november were she will work in front of visitors and I agree, why not.
I am a little bit short of time now but believe the rifle will be blued until christmas.





Are you planning to position the forward edge of the forend checkering to incorporate the splice in the stock blank? That could potentially conceal the join line between the two grains very effectively.

This has been a fascinating build. Like all of us here, I can't wait to see the final product!


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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: vykkagur]
      #345287 - 24/09/20 04:49 AM

I know what you mean, because its clearly orientate on the Schönauer



maybe, will sleep about it

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #348522 - 27/12/20 04:53 PM

what to do when a project is ready? breathing once than thinking about the next

the checkering was ready in novemeber and my gunmaker recommend a gentleman in suhl for rust blueing what was necessary because of soft soldering and welding. the man had a time table when he do rust blueing and the last date this year was from 21 to 23 december.
on 24 december the post was bringing a well known package. cost 60 euro including shipment back home, you can't do at home for this price.



other smal parts were fire blueed ( look for the real blue parts)or hot blueed by myself






the sins of the past - can#t remember how often I have talk to tig welder to stay away a german mile (this are 24000 german feet) from anything stainless

well, it did not happen witht he bolt handle! looks fine before blueing but now I see what happen there

no idea what to do about this




yes, its a light and handy rifle. the only new parts on the whole thing are the stock front cap and the stutzen sling ring, every other part was old and reuse.

this is my definition of being ecologically friendly and having a low carbon footprint!




































and yes, all ranges are closed because of miss corona.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: lancaster]
      #348527 - 27/12/20 06:07 PM

Nice looking rifle now. Be interested in how she shoots when you can get to the range.

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Re: little Carcano sporter project [Re: Rule303]
      #348528 - 27/12/20 07:30 PM

Sincere congratulations on you work, Lancaster, your Carcano has turned into a really desirable little sporter; I hope she will shoot as well as she is nice!
Louis

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