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Huvius
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: CptCurl]
      #324666 - 13/02/19 02:30 PM

The 500 hammer falling block I recently bought is #5852
Another one I bought - bit of a project though - is a 450 hammer falling block #5123

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: Huvius]
      #324671 - 13/02/19 09:08 PM

Thanks to you both. Sorry to reiterate these things … but I need to refresh the thread every now and again to get new and more info !!

Richard Brown
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: RichB]
      #324693 - 14/02/19 07:51 PM

Just dropped in. I have a sxs 450/400 3 1/4 As soon as I remember how to post a picture I will along with the details. Serial #736%. It does have a broken striker, can you help with that?

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: mickey]
      #324697 - 14/02/19 09:27 PM

% = 5 ?

Sorry, I am a descendant of Alexander Henry - not a gunsmith !!

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: RichB]
      #324699 - 14/02/19 09:42 PM

Mick,

Our member Mike Rowe can make a striker for your rifle. Contact him.

Good to see you drop by and I hope you are doing well.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: mickey]
      #324701 - 15/02/19 02:14 AM

Mick,
Quote:

Just dropped in. I have a sxs 450/400 3 1/4 ............ does have a broken striker, can you help with that?



Steve Bertram “Bertram & Co” here in Colorado could help you with a new striker and his turnaround time is reasonable. (And make a couple of spares too).
http://www.bertramandco.com/index.html
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 3DogMike]
      #326789 - 03/04/19 11:47 AM

A. Henry double rifle #1082 just came onto the market:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/806256869

I guess you could call it surviving...not shootable, but surviving...

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: Huvius]
      #326795 - 03/04/19 03:42 PM

Very nice looking, unfortunately it looks like the action is cracked thru left and right sides right in front of the lock plates?
Not a shooter.......
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 3DogMike]
      #326808 - 03/04/19 11:16 PM

It does indeed look like it’s cracked.... That makes it a mighty expensive wall hanger or very pretty boat anchor or walking cane..... That is a terrible pity.

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Huvius
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: Postman]
      #326810 - 04/04/19 12:22 AM

Exactly!
Too bad.
As an aside, what do you think of the “conversion” or what that could mean?
I myself, suspect that it could be that A&N could have rechambered and regelated it for a flatter shooting 577 and the rear sight leaves were altered or replaced for the flatter trajectory.
Then, perhaps, someone along the line fired a nitro load in it and cracked the action.






BTW, I pointed this out to the seller.
Will see if he pulls the gun or discloses this major flaw.
Pretty much shoots his entire condition description down in flames IMO.


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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: Huvius]
      #326818 - 04/04/19 09:12 AM

Rifle has been recolored, bet it cracked when it warped in the heat treat. I had an 8 Bore double rifle with a minor crack after recoloring. It cracked in the corner of one of the cutouts in the frame where the barrel lugs go into. (Jones underlever). A prominent gunsmith welded the crack and recolored. No problems after that.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 8borerifle]
      #326843 - 05/04/19 09:53 AM

The action itself has no Henry marks. Look at all the pictures. The barrels are marked, but not the action.

It doesn't have the relief cuts usually found in the bars of a Henry BPE double.

The butt stock doesn't look very Scottish to me either.

JMHO

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: CptCurl]
      #326845 - 05/04/19 10:33 AM

Too - the colours looks too modern to me, overly heavy blue, not enough browns or light tans.
Could very well have cracked when quenched, I guess - don't know for sure. Shooting too heavy a load also makes sense.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: DarylS]
      #326847 - 05/04/19 11:58 AM

No AH serial # on the bars, angle of the grip is all wrong for a Henry, way to flat. Engraving does not look right either.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: prairie_ghost]
      #326851 - 05/04/19 02:39 PM

Wondering if A&N “converted” by altering the stock, or contracted with Henry? The stock surely does look a lot like typical A&N pistol grip stock profile & with no cheekpiece.
I would guess that the answer would possibly be found in the A&N records.

Just looked and the bidding is still going higher.........hope the bidders know what they are getting.
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 3DogMike]
      #326876 - 06/04/19 03:18 AM

Great comments. Too bad for potential bidders that they don't read your thoughts.

It does look like a very fresh refinish and, not being disclosed by the seller is bothersome.

Several have pointed out that the action is cracked. Perhaps my vision is not that great so could someone explain or show where the crack is.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 85lc]
      #326878 - 06/04/19 04:46 AM

Look just up above & ahead of the lock's screw slot in the bottom picture. Then look at the same area on the other side of the action.

The cracks are evident and easily seen(on my 24"monitor). In the bottom picture, there is actually a small piece of metal missing in the crack - which likely means a multi-fracture in the metal.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: DarylS]
      #326968 - 08/04/19 12:28 AM

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: prairie_ghost]
      #327196 - 12/04/19 12:56 PM

Auction ended @ $4525.00 USD......that’s a lot of $$$ for a tarted up wall hanger. Hope the bidder knew what it was about.
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: CptCurl]
      #328143 - 08/05/19 10:49 PM

Excellent CptCurl … any more for any more ??

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: RichB]
      #328166 - 09/05/19 09:35 AM

Posting for member “degoins” from the USA, an Alexander Henry .450 BPE
Looked it up in my Donald Dallas book and it was finished and entered in the Henry records on 10Nov1894. Sorry, I did not get permission from the owner to post the actual serial number.
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 3DogMike]
      #328167 - 09/05/19 10:13 AM

Got to be before 1894 but regardless, another "typical" Alex Henry which just exudes the quality of style and execution that sets them above most others!

I've often thought, I would be totally content owning only Alexander Henry and George Gibbs rifles.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: Huvius]
      #328208 - 10/05/19 11:23 AM

Quote:

Got to be before 1894 but regardless, another "typical" Alex Henry which just exudes the quality of style and execution that sets them above most others!




Ben,
Looked this one up in the Donald Dallas book, in fact it is an 1894 rifle, 10Nov1894 to be exact.
Very unusual to have stalking safeties at that late date, and the top strap over the comb is apparently pretty rare as well.
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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: 3DogMike]
      #328221 - 10/05/19 09:15 PM

A huge thanks to Mike for posting the pics for me.

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Re: Alexander Henry - an inventory of surviving rifles [Re: degoins]
      #328224 - 10/05/19 10:22 PM

Great looking rifle. How does it shoot?

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