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Ripp
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FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel
      #321607 - 17/11/18 03:04 AM

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/10/19/fn-mausers-and-the-fight-for-israel/

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: Ripp]
      #321611 - 17/11/18 07:04 AM

Good article, tks Art.

In about 1974, I sent a rifle with a butt plate identical to those, to my brother for his birthday. I bought it at Allen Lever's "Toys for Big Boys" store in Vancouver, BC.
It had already been 'sporterized'. I do not remember what the 'crest' if any, it had on the front receiver ring.

It was chambered in .30/06.

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: DarylS]
      #321620 - 17/11/18 11:12 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Thank You for sharing Ripp, it's an interesting read.

Avagreatweekendeh!
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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: Homer]
      #321646 - 18/11/18 07:18 PM

These rifles were available in Australia in the 1990's (?), perhaps later for $100 and were in good condition. A great disappointment I never picked one up back then.

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: NitroX]
      #321658 - 19/11/18 05:43 AM

I paid $55.00 for the '06 I gave Taylor.

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: DarylS]
      #321678 - 19/11/18 10:49 PM

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I paid $55.00 for the '06 I gave Taylor.




Wow--$55..

I paid $45 for my uncles 303 British rifle...was the only centerfire rifle I had as a kid growing up on the farm--open military sights.. great way to learn in my opinion..

We should have all bought a truck load back then..

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: Ripp]
      #322871 - 30/12/18 07:30 AM

I had one in 7.62, beautiful condition, but the straight walled case never fed well from the unaltered magazine resulting in a lot of mis- feeding. So I sold it. I’ve always been keen to buy one of those earlier Israeli re-works of a WW1 era action rifles in 8mm. Would be an interesting piece as to what it’s seen etc.

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: HunterGunner]
      #322872 - 30/12/18 07:36 AM

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I had one in 7.62, beautiful condition, but the straight walled case never fed well from the unaltered magazine resulting in a lot of mis- feeding. So I sold it. I’ve always been keen to buy one of those earlier Israeli re-works of a WW1 era action rifles in 8mm. Would be an interesting piece as to what it’s seen etc.




I read an account from an Israeli soldier from the early years that said his 7.62 Mauser was at best a single loader. One from the top of the magazine and that was it. Total junk.

As you say, the guns {at least some of them} appear to have been simply rebarreled w/o regard for magazine alterations.

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: 9.3x57]
      #322879 - 30/12/18 09:52 PM

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I had one in 7.62, beautiful condition, but the straight walled case never fed well from the unaltered magazine resulting in a lot of mis- feeding. So I sold it. I’ve always been keen to buy one of those earlier Israeli re-works of a WW1 era action rifles in 8mm. Would be an interesting piece as to what it’s seen etc.




I read an account from an Israeli soldier from the early years that said his 7.62 Mauser was at best a single loader. One from the top of the magazine and that was it. Total junk.

As you say, the guns {at least some of them} appear to have been simply rebarreled w/o regard for magazine alterations.




I have a 1945 DOT Israeli Mauser (not really assembled in 1945 but probably in the early 50s so I've been led to believe. The "5" is mis-stamped compared to the rest of the figures). It has a spacer in the front of the magazine but I'm not convinced that it does anything because the round that is fed into the chamber doesn't go near the spacer.

I have to cycle the bolt quickly otherwise the round pops out of the magazine ahead of the extractor and it won't snap over the chambered round, but it could be modified to do so.

I have a friend who converted an 8mm Mauser to 308 by screwing on an Israeli barrel he got at a gunshow. There's no spacer in the magazine and he hasn't modified the feed rails in any way, and it feeds fine.


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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: mauserand9mm]
      #322882 - 31/12/18 02:03 AM

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I had one in 7.62, beautiful condition, but the straight walled case never fed well from the unaltered magazine resulting in a lot of mis- feeding. So I sold it. I’ve always been keen to buy one of those earlier Israeli re-works of a WW1 era action rifles in 8mm. Would be an interesting piece as to what it’s seen etc.




I read an account from an Israeli soldier from the early years that said his 7.62 Mauser was at best a single loader. One from the top of the magazine and that was it. Total junk.

As you say, the guns {at least some of them} appear to have been simply rebarreled w/o regard for magazine alterations.




I have a 1945 DOT Israeli Mauser (not really assembled in 1945 but probably in the early 50s so I've been led to believe. The "5" is mis-stamped compared to the rest of the figures). It has a spacer in the front of the magazine but I'm not convinced that it does anything because the round that is fed into the chamber doesn't go near the spacer.

I have to cycle the bolt quickly otherwise the round pops out of the magazine ahead of the extractor and it won't snap over the chambered round, but it could be modified to do so.

I have a friend who converted an 8mm Mauser to 308 by screwing on an Israeli barrel he got at a gunshow. There's no spacer in the magazine and he hasn't modified the feed rails in any way, and it feeds fine.




All of that makes sense.

Some will. Some won't.

That's kind of true about some commercial rifles as well! LOL

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: DarylS]
      #322891 - 31/12/18 08:19 AM

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Good article, tks Art.

In about 1974, I sent a rifle with a butt plate identical to those, to my brother for his birthday. I bought it at Allen Lever's "Toys for Big Boys" store in Vancouver, BC.
It had already been 'sporterized'. I do not remember what the 'crest' if any, it had on the front receiver ring.

It was chambered in .30/06.




Will T. and I used to spend our lunch hours in Allen's shop, especially after his trips back to the UK. Back in those days Allen used to import used double rifles from the UK. I learned to love British doubles fondling them in that shop. With no new brass or loaded ammunition available for them they sold for what now seem like ridiculously low prices. I still hunt with a Watson Brothers 450/400 3 inch I bought there for approximately $400.

I am another who bought one of the Israeli sporterized Mausers in 30-06 from Allen. It was for my son as his first rifle and as a Christmas present. He carried it for many years while guiding out of Smithers for various outfitters. I believe it is still in his gun safe.

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Re: FN Mausers-and-the-fight-for-Israel [Re: dracb]
      #322908 - 01/01/19 05:37 AM

So many good deals slipped past us trying to balance our incomes between eating, girls, guns and shooting supplies.

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