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Re: Punt gun [Re: Daryl_S]
      #319319 - 25/08/18 05:04 AM

IN THE NEXT hOLTS AUCTION

"Sale A0918 Lot 633 - Fine Modern & Antique Guns - September 2018

AN ACTION UNIT FROM A BREECH-LOADING PUNT-GUN, UNSIGNED, IN A HOLLAND & HOLLAND LABELLED CASE, no visible serial number,
circa 1890, 15in. overall with 'duck-tailed' butt (age cracks present), the top inlet with a brass plate bearing a central striker-piece cocked via a lanyard (present), the unit fired by a further lanyard operated trigger-plate inlet below the grip, the front with steel breech-plug machined with locking shoulders and complete with its oiled canvas storage bag, an '0'-bore wad-punch and roll turn-over tool, a period 'Cooppal' punt powder tin (empty), a further empty black japanned tin (possibly for shot), a powder funnel, a combination tool, a leather shotgun pull-through wallet containing extra home-made weights for an interesting weighing balance set in a brass waterproof container with German trade label (one weight dated 1826) and a pair of punt-gun trunnion mounts, the unlined brass bound stained pine case with pinned label from a Holland & Holland hammerless gun and a further pinned label for Holland 28-bore gun serial no. 8345 (for 1884) and also including a wooden lid from a box of 'Cooppal Liliput' shot cartridges"





https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...3&saletype=


I know what a punt gun is, the simple form where boat and gun make a unit. then there is the term "swivel gun" - a gun that can be move because its on a mount



than there is also a "bank gun"

https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...3&saletype=

"Sale A0918 Lot 615 - Fine Modern & Antique Guns - September 2018

AN EXTREMELY RARE 32mm PINFIRE SINGLE-SHOT WHEELED BANK-GUN, UNSIGNED, no visible serial number,
probably French or Belgian, with round tapering 76in. sighted barrel, single feed bolt-action receiver with left mounted external lock signed W.R. Pape, and hammer, chequered walnut tiller butt giving an overall gun length of 94in., trigger with provision for lanyard release, mounted on an iron pintle fixed to a painted hardwood trolley with metal furniture including twin trail legs and 24in. diameter four-spoke wheels, worm and wheel elevation device, full overall length approximately 132in.

Other Notes: This impressive bank-gun has remained in the same family for three generations and was originally purchased for the harvesting of larks. For an associated lark lure see Lot 700."




















no doubt made in belgium or france as same kind of punt gun then set on weels for shooting larks?
I know that this bird was hunted in masses for eating then but its hard to imagine how it was shoot with this cannon. the 32 mm shotshell is not very well known. its in size between a 4 ga shell and the 1,5" puntgun shell. the 32 mm center fire case is the more common to find if you looking for such a thing.




the original was maybe the pinfire version , the biggest pinfire cartridge ever made only be Gevelot/SFM







https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/biggest-pinfire/14980/16

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Re: Punt gun [Re: lancaster]
      #322081 - 02/12/18 07:57 AM

wads for the 32 mm caliber








https://www.naturabuy.fr/Tres-tres-RARE-...em-4788616.html






https://www.ledilettante.com/livre-9782842637354.htm





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Re: Punt gun [Re: lancaster]
      #322307 - 09/12/18 12:32 AM

well not a real puntgun, more a fowler
we had punt guns with an enlarged snider action here is 4 ga single shot build with a sized up 1874 gras action
https://www.pressreader.com/france/armes-de-chasse/20170928/281608125617768





here with 28 ga gras shotgun, normal size





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