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C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine
      #319418 - 29/08/18 05:21 AM

never see it before, very nice made early semi auto
http://www.icollector.com/C-G-Haenel-cla...ber-w_i19089089










the rifle cost three times as much like the Haenel Model 1900



cartridge was ahead of its time for being a short cartridge


http://www.municion.org/
think the action was not able to handle bigger cartridges like the remington or winchester semi auto's

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: lancaster]
      #319419 - 29/08/18 05:53 AM

Lancaster, you can certainly find some rare gems, beautiful engraving to say the least!
I don't understand Spanish, but was this cartridge designed 1899 & the catalogue out 1900?
Sort of predated the 8mm Kurz by a fair old margin then didn't it!


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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: lancaster]
      #319933 - 19/09/18 08:58 PM

Thanks for posting Lancaster. That is a neat old semi-auto! Never heard of this rifle. Cost three times more than the bolt actions? Probably didnít sell many. Loaded by stripper clips, I imagine, since I donít see a magazine.

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: Levallois]
      #319935 - 20/09/18 03:23 AM

I had one of the first rifle, once.

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: Dogfish858]
      #319964 - 21/09/18 10:02 AM

I love that rifle. John Henwood devotes a page to them, with a couple of pictures, in his book about the remington model 8. Apparently they were made in very limited numbers. The story of semiauto sporting rifles is very interesting and an important chapter in the evolution of the rifle.

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: cordite]
      #319965 - 21/09/18 10:24 AM

I have no interest in modern semiautos but really like the early ones. My old remington model 8 is a blast to shoot. I think it is beautiful and ugly at the same time! Made in 1909.

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Edited by cordite (21/09/18 10:28 AM)


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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: cordite]
      #319971 - 21/09/18 01:36 PM

" I think it is beautiful and ugly at the same time! "

yes, it is

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: lancaster]
      #320107 - 27/09/18 09:09 AM

I really like the old Model 8. Iíve had 4 - 3 in 30 Remington and 1 in 35 Remington. Might be time to get another?

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: cordite]
      #320108 - 27/09/18 09:28 AM

Quote:

I have no interest in modern semiautos but really like the early ones. My old remington model 8 is a blast to shoot. I think it is beautiful and ugly at the same time! Made in 1909.






Iím more a fan of the Winchester semi autos myself, would love a M1910 in .401.. but would also be a joy to own a model 8! Canít have either here

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: Ash]
      #320110 - 27/09/18 10:19 AM

I really love the old semi-auto sporters. I have several Model 8s, 1907 and 1910 Winchesters and a Standard Arms Model G.

http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards.com/


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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: Ash]
      #320113 - 27/09/18 11:38 AM

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Iím more a fan of the Winchester semi autos myself, would love a M1910 in .401.. but would also be a joy to own a model 8! Canít have either here




Iíd have to agree. I have 4 of the 1907s and 1 of the 1910s. Really underrated rifles. The 07s (and to a lesser degree the 1910s) are historically significant as well from their use early in WW1 in British airplanes and by France apparently in the trenches; in the 1930s by gangsters and lawmen alike including the FBI, John Dillinger and Baby Face Nelson; and beyond by law enforcement and prison guards.

1907 deluxe with a few 10-round magazines.

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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: Levallois]
      #320194 - 30/09/18 03:35 AM

have a model 1910 and like the powerful carbine cartridge very much





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Re: C.G. Haenel Roth System Semi-Automatic Carbine [Re: lancaster]
      #321891 - 27/11/18 07:01 AM

like allways I try to be ahead of the internet for some time
12 days old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsuYZbAIv1c





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