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lancaster
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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #319180 - 19/08/18 03:09 PM

Drilling W. Collath Söhne, 16/65 + 9,3x65R, SN 21174
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7075266













Dilling W. Collath Söhne, 12/65 + 9,3x65R
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7074316












one of the rare top lever guns by collath

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      #319515 - 01/09/18 12:38 AM

"Lot 1500: W. A. TANK (LEIPZIG) A 16-BORE TESCHNER-COLLATH PATENT SLIDE AND TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR, no visible serial number,

Description: W. A. TANK (LEIPZIG)
A 16-BORE TESCHNER-COLLATH PATENT SLIDE AND TILT UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS NON-EJECTOR, no visible serial number,
30 3/4in. (78cm) nitro reproved fine etched damascus barrels, the rib gold-inlaid 'W A. TANK LEIPZIG' (minor losses) and with a flip-up leaf sight, the breech ends with a carved feathered border, 2 1/2in. chambers, bored approx. true cyl. and imp. cyl. choke, scroll-backed Collath patent action with manual wingnut safety, tang mounted pin cocking-indicators, slender fences with dot and chequer engraving, bold floral designs surrounding game scene vignettes of roe deer, hound and stag, the standing breech with a capercaillie, the triggerguard with a hound, lefaucheux style forward facing underlever with horn shroud, permanently attached fore-end,13 5/8in. semi-pistolgrip stock with sculpted cheekpiece, sling swivels and including horn buttplate, weight 6lb. 8oz."
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/w.-a.-tank-leipzig-a-16-bore-teschner-collath-p-9b24dbd985















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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #320011 - 24/09/18 02:20 AM

Drilling W.Collath ,SN 14134, caliber looks like C. 3 and 9,3x65R
https://www.gunstar.co.uk/cheshire-gun-r...er-guns/1015542



















































double gun "16 ga" but must be a C. 4, http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7113708#img













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      #320077 - 26/09/18 04:01 AM

correction for the last double gun
its a real 16 ga by Collath Söhne, SN 22342









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      #320796 - 20/10/18 05:10 AM

W.Collath double rifle drilling 500BPE 3" + 16/65, SN 7763
https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/l/17...p;currentpos=97









probably made for hunting trip to india


Kal. .500x75 (.500 Express 3") / 16/65. Nr. 7763. Blanke Läufe, Länge 68 cm. Bescheinigung über Nichtbeschuss. Bräuniertes, partiell patiniertes Laufbündel, der Schrotlauf als Damastlauf ausgeführt. Guillochierte Laufschiene mit Gold eingelegter Firmierung "W.Collath in Frankfurt a.O. Patent.". Am hinteren Teil mit Bohrung und Schlitz für ZF-Montage. Als Visierung Kimme mit zusätzlicher Klappkimme, Neusilberkorn für Kugelschuß und aufklappbares Messingkorn für den Flintenschuss. Patentierter Collath-Excenter-Kammerverschluss (Teschner Verschluss) mit drei selbstspannenden Schlossen, seitlich rechts am Abzugsbügel der Umstellhebel auf Kugellauf. Flügelsicherung am Kolbenhals. Basküle grau gebeizt mit fernöstlichen/indischen Tierdarstellungen, links drei Tiger, rechts Tiger mit Wasserbüffel, auf der Scheibe mit Tiger verschnitten. Doppelabzug, der vordere als Rückstecher ausgeführt. Dunkler Nussholzschaft mit Deutscher Backe, Fischhaut und am Kolben links mit Hirschdarstellung verschnitten. Schaftmagazin für vier Kugelpatronen, Abzugsbügel und Kolbenkappe aus Horn. Schaftlänge 35 cm, Gesamtlänge 108 cm. In dieser Ausführung seltene Variante einer sehr interessanten Konstruktion.

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      #321242 - 05/11/18 12:25 AM

the Teschner Collath was in fresh air again



anual goose hunting I was again in the wrong group because the goose came again to the other side of the water. after a heavy shooting from there and close to complete darkness when we were seeing only the high flying birds and it was very useless to fire one goose came along when my neigbor was saying I make a hit. so I ask for one of the lot the dogs bring out of the water and got it. probably not the one I shot at but the Collath make a lot o noise, smoke and flame and other thought someone shot with sigal flares on the goose. maybe one third SxS, the rest over/under there whats a high rate for SXS today. me the only one with blackpowder shells, 3mm shot self rolled.
I learn my lesson about clean barrels with duplex loads before, little nitro powder load under blackpowder, from "Shooting the british Double Rifle". I had maybe 15 grains of the very clean burning swiss rifle powder under cheap shotgun blackpowder and after 10 shots the barrels were cleaner than shooting only the cheap powder one time. Not that it dont make any dirt but helps realy to have the barrels cleaner than before.

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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #321246 - 05/11/18 03:51 AM

Congratulations on that goose, Lancaster.

Duplex loads can make a HUGE difference in how BP dirties any gun.
with duplex loads, I find a lot less 'caking' or buildup of the powder fouling.

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Re: hold for me [Re: Daryl_S]
      #321252 - 05/11/18 06:21 AM

I have try real duplex loads in a modern 12 ga once, iirc, 10 grains unique( what I had then) under 70 grain of cheap blackpowder.
" cheap blackpowder" means one of the brands your barrel looks like a hundred yours old stovepipe after the first shot. I learned from the dublex experience that the bottom powder in a shell will care for the dirt the upper powder is making.
think I load here 15 grains Swiss 2 FFg and top it with 65 grains czech Fg powder. barrel looks surprisingly clean with this, not like nitro but for blackpowder excellent.

btw, next year not with the Collath but the mother of all shotguns if everything will be the ok then

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Re: hold for me [Re: Daryl_S]
      #321255 - 05/11/18 08:09 AM

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Congratulations on that goose, Lancaster.
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Great to see the old girl still being able to do exactly what she was supposed to.
Certainly would have predated every firearm there by a considerable margin to say the least - see, I still got it!!
Well done mate!

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      #321261 - 05/11/18 09:48 AM

Very nice!

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      #321634 - 18/11/18 06:35 AM

double rifle maybe 9,3x72R, SM 18092
https://historical.ha.com/itm/long-guns/...cription-071515









"Engraved W. Collath Double Barrel Rifle.
Serial no. 18092 [barrels and receiver], .36 caliber, 26 1/2-inch barrels with fixed front sight and rear elevation sight. Scope mounts. Blued finish. Top of barrels marked: WITTENER / EXCELSIOR. Elaborately scroll, floral and game scene engraved coin-finished receiver and tangs. Checkered walnut pistolgrip stock with cheekrest. Splinter fore-end. Sling swivels. Blue Line rubber recoil pad. Original brass museum inventory tag attached: J.M. DAVIS / 8409 / MEMORIAL.
Sold to Benefit The JM Davis Collection at the JM Davis Arms and Historical Museum."




single shot rifle "7,65mm", SN 17482

https://historical.ha.com/itm/long-guns/...cription-071515






"Engraved W. Collath Sporting Rifle with Telescopic Sight.
Serial no. 17482 [barrel and receiver], 7.65mm, 28-inch octagonal barrel with fixed front sight and rear folding leaf sight. Blued and case-hardened finish. Elaborately scroll engraved receiver. Dual triggers. Horn triggerguard. Checkered walnut pistolgrip stock and smooth fore-end. Sling swivels. Scroll engraved cartridge compartment to base of stock. Hard rubber butt. D.R.G.M. telescopic sight. Original brass museum inventory tag attached: J.M. DAVIS / 4767 / MEMORIAL.
Sold to Benefit The JM Davis Collection at the JM Davis Arms and Historical Museum."


Drilling W.Collath Söhne 16/65 +9,3x65R ; SN 18444
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7207720














Drilling W.Collath Söhne, 12/65 + 8x57R 360, SN 20494
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7209430
















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Edited by lancaster (19/11/18 02:48 AM)


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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #321871 - 26/11/18 08:04 PM

double gun http://www.armurerie1000etangs.com/vente-produit-chasse-ancien-fusil-juxtap--canon-basculant,448.html









W.Collath Drilling 16ga +11,15x60R
http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/315682-w-collath/













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Edited by lancaster (26/11/18 10:11 PM)


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