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Marrakai
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Sistema Colt Modelo 1927
      #318819 - 05/08/18 11:28 PM

After spending 5 weeks travelling in Chile and Argentina a few months back, I became very interested in the firearms carried by the ever-present mounted police guarding street-corners and plazas, or marching in seemingly-impromptu parades. Any attempt to get a closer look at the service pistols, normally concealed in leather flap-holsters, was met with hostile stares from their custodians!

Not wishing to extend my holiday in a South American jail, I postponed this research interest until safely back in Oz. While web-searching Argentina's colourful small-arms history through the 1900s I came across a Sistema Colt for sale, and took the plunge.

The pistol is roll-marked "C.F.S." for Consejo Federale de Securidad, the Federal Council for Security set up by Juan Domingo Peron to give him absolute control over all of Argentina's numerous police forces. According to Clawson, only 100 Sistema Colts were made for the CFS, in 1954, but there were clearly more. This one has the highest serial number listed on the 1911forum site where they maintain a thread on the CFS-marked Sistema Colts.



The pistol came with original black leather flap-holster, spare mag in a pouch on the drop-loop, all parts with matching-numbers including magazine. It has not been arsenal-refurbished like those surplussed in the US during the 1990s, instead it came to Australia via Germany acquiring German proof-marks along the way.

Unfortunately the original barrel is worn beyond serviceable limits, barely holding a group at 7 metres, but I was lucky enough to find a brand-new 1990s-era Thompson barrel and fitted it myself. This is my first 1911, so steep learning-curve, assisted greatly by borrowed copies of Kuhnhausen's bibles. Shot it yesterday with perfect satisfaction, fed and ejected perfectly, all in the black at 25 metres with 6 o'clock hold. ...if anything stringing horizontally a bit, not sure how fussy I should be. Also puts a couple of tiny marks on the case, at 4 and 8 o'clock just below the case-mouth, might need to widen the barrel-ramp a smidge more.

Quickly discovering that 1911 Colts are just as addictive as British double rifles! Might need to buy a few more lottery tickets...

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93x64mm
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Re: Sistema Colt Modelo 1927 [Re: Marrakai]
      #318833 - 06/08/18 06:11 AM

Is it in .45ACP & if so what events are you allowed to use it in?

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ducmarc
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Re: Sistema Colt Modelo 1927 [Re: 93x64mm]
      #318859 - 07/08/18 11:44 AM

i've got a 1927 F.M.A.P marked one .it was issued to my dad while on the navy target team in the fiftys along with an h&r leatherneck and a p17 accurized with a tomphson sight. being a cheif when he drummed out they surplusd his guns out to him. he sold the p17 but kept the sight and the 1911 and the H&R. if u like shooting that try a gold cup. mine runs like a sewing machine.how our navy ended up with a colt systima i have know idea.probably screwing with my dad.

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Marrakai
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Re: Sistema Colt Modelo 1927 [Re: ducmarc]
      #318866 - 07/08/18 10:53 PM

The Sistema Colt is indeed a .45 but is marked 11.25mm being the metric equivalent. They were supposedly made to be fully interchangeable with the Hartford Colt 1911s that Argentina had been importing from the US between the wars.

Not really suitable for the range matches I normally shoot, but in the Northern Territory it can be discharged any time on a Collectors Licence with the right authorisation.

I have thought about shooting the Australia Day, Anzac Day, and Rememberence Day Service Pistol matches with it, but have been doing quite well with my Mk.VI Webley revolver (often win the precision, but not the rapid-fire! Managed an overall 2nd last year though).

ducmarc: I'd love a Gold Cup, will keep an eye out for an affordable example but probably can't hold my breath for that long! Was your dad's pistol roll-marked MARINA DE GUERRA, MARINA ARGENTINA, OR ARMADA ARGENTINA on the slide? Judging by the build quality of the Sistema Colt in my custody, I would say your dad kicked a goal!

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tinker
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Re: Sistema Colt Modelo 1927 [Re: Marrakai]
      #318870 - 08/08/18 12:59 AM

Nice little bit of history there.

Let us know how you do in the matches!

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