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JDL
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More pics of my Haenel
      #318853 - 07/08/18 07:56 AM

Upside down so you can read the stamps





The scope brand:


Reticule:


So do you think I got burned too bad for $1000.00? Anymore information appreciated.

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ducmarc
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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: JDL]
      #318858 - 07/08/18 11:28 AM

i'll give u 500 so u can recoup some of your loss.....thats a really nice rifle i'd figure u did good . what caliber is it in ?

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JDL
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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: ducmarc]
      #318864 - 07/08/18 10:10 PM

Thanks ducmarc for the kind offer but, not right now. It uses the .25 Remington cartridge and included in the sell was reloading dies and at least 200 cases, maybe more.

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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: JDL]
      #318873 - 08/08/18 04:39 AM

The scope is much later than the rifle. It was made in the 1960s – 70s, likely by Schmidt & Bender. WEKU was a trademark of a distributer in Braunfels, a town near Wetzlar, a center of German optical industry. (New Braunfels in Texas was founded in 1845 by Prince Carl of Solms – Braunfels). Schmidt & Bender started in 1957, making scopes "for the trade" at first. These early S&B scopes are of quite good quality, optically far better than contemporary American scopes. Allen head screws came into use on EAW made mount parts at the same time.
The rifle was certainly refinished quite recently. Originally the receivers of these Haenels were case hardened, read the catalog description. The service load marking on the receiver ring and the corners of the receiver bridge seems to be "washed" by enthusiastic use of a buffing wheel. It reads: 1.5 gramm = 23 gr GewehrBlättchenPulver = (smokeless military) rifle flake powder / Kupfermantelgeschoss = copper jacket bullet. The glossy stock finish also looks "American" to me.
But it is still a very rare and nice rifle. At least it escaped conversion to a more available chambering. Ken Waters published many loads for a .25 Remington in 1973. The Haenel 1909 action is certainly much stronger than the American autoloaders and punp actions by Remington, Standard or Stevens. Alas, the Haenel 1909 was available in 6.5x57, 7x57, 8x57I, 9x57, 9.3x62 and 10.75x68 too.
Take the rifle apart and look for the proofmarks under the barrel. These may allow to narrow down the dating of the rifle: If the bore/land (not groove/bullet) diameter is marked with the old gauge number 313, it was proofed 1909 – 1911. If it is marked as 6.3 mm, it was made 1912 to 1914. Production ended soon after WW1 started August 1914, though some rifles were assembled from left over parts to the 1920s.

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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: kuduae]
      #318874 - 08/08/18 06:15 AM

Certainly got yourself an unusual rifle JDL, will be a nice stalking rifle.
The .25 Remington should make a good deer cartridge, if your rifle can be loaded to 8x57 pressures then it will certainly be able to give more than a good account for itself.
As to the outlay, well mate if you like it then too bad for anyone else they missed out, it's in your gun cupboard now!

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JDL
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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: 93x64mm]
      #318878 - 08/08/18 06:57 AM

Yes 93x64, I plan to use it this upcoming deer season in an area where close range shots are the norm. I feel a 100 grain bullet at around 2600 fps is feasible and should, on our smaller white tail deer (130#), be ample. I'm about to make up some loads to try her out tomorrow.

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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: JDL]
      #318919 - 09/08/18 04:32 AM

Well done JDL! Lovely rifle, even if re-finished. One of those is on my bucket list.

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Re: More pics of my Haenel [Re: sharps4590]
      #318926 - 09/08/18 08:21 AM

Certainly a very nice looking rifle and I reckon the price is pretty good with an interesting cartridge to boot. Well done.

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