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Igorrock
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CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs
      #317195 - 10/06/18 10:48 AM

I just saw such a rifle in local gun show. Quite heavy "cannon".

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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: Igorrock]
      #317201 - 10/06/18 12:53 PM

I bought one used at the Range about three years ago. Came with two boxes of ammo and only 6 shells fired.

I sold it with a few left as well.

Shooting it from a standing bench was just miserable. At 50m best I could do with it as 3 inches and I felt a flinch comming on so it went within six months.

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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: Rell]
      #317204 - 10/06/18 03:27 PM

I would figure with that sort of calibre you would need to have a stock tailor made to you to reduce felt recoil.

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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: Rule303]
      #317214 - 11/06/18 06:16 AM

A mate had one for a while, before he got an offer on it too good to refuse!
It was handloaded with 600gn Woodleighs that came with the rifle, we didn't get to chronograph the loads, but they would drill clean thru 18" gum trees (hard wood) & keep going!
It shot exactly to point of aim 40-50 yards & was very accurate off hand.
Those loads certainly had a lot more zing than my 500NE 3" which clocks 570gn just over 2150fps, it had a good stock & was weighted well; recoil was controllable & manageable - still wouldn't like to have a big session at the range with one of these though, give you a recoil headache!


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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: 93x64mm]
      #317386 - 20/06/18 06:34 AM

I shot my cousins 550 in 505. Loaded the 3 rounds and shot all 3 then did it again. All 6 shots it was a fight to hold on to but they all went in to buffalo brain sized groups at 25 yards. That stock had the grace and shape of a 4x4.

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Ripp
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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: tward1604]
      #319852 - 14/09/18 10:25 PM

Quote:

I shot my cousins 550 in 505. Loaded the 3 rounds and shot all 3 then did it again. All 6 shots it was a fight to hold on to but they all went in to buffalo brain sized groups at 25 yards. That stock had the grace and shape of a 4x4.




(quote) That stock had the grace and shape of a 4x4.






Now that, is a funny comment..

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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: Ripp]
      #319869 - 15/09/18 10:35 PM

I had to go find my old passwd just to log in and say I have one of the CZ550 in 505 Gibbs and I just love this rifle. It is my all time favorite firearm. The old 602 Mauser action is classic. The stock, MY stock, is a very nice straight grain walnut and GRACEFUL for size. Appropriate stock might be better way to state. Now, this exact same gun is available in 375 H&H and in that case it is way to much wood and steel for a 375. For a 505 it is just right.

As for recoil, they do kick. I am shooting factory equivalent loads as well as 600 gr at 2400 fps hand loads. I use a shooting vest. If it was easy, I would be looking for something bigger! I shoot for two reasons one is to relax and the other is too challenge myself and improve. That applies to bulls eye 22 pistol upto big bore rifles. Just plinking to burn ammo is fine to relax, then there is shooting to improve my skills.

If I were to hunt the big 5, and it not going to happen, just saying 'if', then I would be using some 40 caliber magnum. The is my limit where I can shoot well, shoot fast and still carry the gun.

I have a 458 and its a bit much to ever hunt while not challenging enough to give me the satisfaction I get from firing the big 50. Dont get me wrong, the 458's are a good choice for a big bore rifle. They are just a over my easy to shoot comfort zone and now that I have a 50, they dont quite rock my world either.

The CZ550 was a game changer for me. I now have several. Until these guns were re-intoduced, the old 602 was just a legend. Now this gun is back and at an affordable price. I still see older 505's for 20,000$. Those days are over. Anyone with the desire can have a 404, 416, 458, 505 and others in magnum action with an ample magazine capacity. No longer an elite club. Tough luck for the elite who have 20k guns from back in the day where there were so few options.


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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: bigboar]
      #322539 - 17/12/18 03:05 PM

I own a CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery. It's my favorite rifle. It's balanced perfectly for me (middle of the magazine floor plate), swings and points like a fine shotgun. Shoots great too. Recoil is fine offhand. From the bench it's sporty. 2nd picture is a 3 shot group from the bench at 50 yards...





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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: chuck375]
      #322540 - 17/12/18 03:55 PM

How do you know that is not just one shot on target and the other two missed completely, ha ha.

Very nice rifle and shooting.


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Ripp
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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: eagle27]
      #322556 - 18/12/18 02:00 AM

Have a good friend who is a very accomplished gunsmith..says for the money, the CZ is a very good firearm..and if you want to throw a few $$ at it, and make them very smooth..

That is a nice looking rifle..congrats...

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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: Ripp]
      #322559 - 18/12/18 02:27 AM

I made one 505 Gibbs in my life. It was a full-custom rifle made on a Brevex action for a man from Texas. The gun was about 10.5 pounds finished. I was a bit afraid of it when it came time to file in the express sights but I found that it hurt me less then my standard 458 Win mag M70. The stock was made with the largest widest pad I could buy and the weight of the gun made it quite controllable.
So I would agree with some of the posts above. if the stock is made correctly and fits you, the recoil is not really as bad as some would say it is.
Any big rifle with an ill-fitting stock can pound you. Even rifles of lesser calibers can be horrible is the don't fit well.


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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: szihn]
      #322560 - 18/12/18 03:13 AM

Quote:

I made one 505 Gibbs in my life. It was a full-custom rifle made on a Brevex action for a man from Texas. The gun was about 10.5 pounds finished. I was a bit afraid of it when it came time to file in the express sights but I found that it hurt me less then my standard 458 Win mag M70. The stock was made with the largest widest pad I could buy and the weight of the gun made it quite controllable.
So I would agree with some of the posts above. if the stock is made correctly and fits you, the recoil is not really as bad as some would say it is.
Any big rifle with an ill-fitting stock can pound you. Even rifles of lesser calibers can be horrible is the don't fit well.




Exactly---had a .470 double once that was horrible..traded it for another model..can fire that easily for 20-30 rounds ..makes a HUGE difference..

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chuck375
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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: Ripp]
      #322577 - 18/12/18 02:48 PM

If you do buy one. A couple of notes:

1. Don't take it out to do load development wearing nothing but a T-shirt and shoot 30 rounds from the bench. I have a picture but you don't want to see it.

2. Do get a Past recoil pad and a slip on Limbsaver (slide it over the recoil pad) for bench shooting.

3. Dry fire five times between each shot on the bench.

4. Shoot it offhand, so much fun.

5. Have fun! Nothing like the big 500s

Another 3 shot group at 50 yards from the same 500 Jeffery session.



My first kill with it, Feral 450 hog at 8 feet in the brush with my youngest son.



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Re: CZ 550 in .505 Gibbs [Re: chuck375]
      #322584 - 18/12/18 09:42 PM

The 505 Gibbs is certainly the cartridge that I have most interest in when it comes to big bore rifles. There are heaps of 500 Jeffery's around but not that many 505 Gibbs. There is something about the cartridge size and shape as well as the name that do it for me.

Nice rifle by the way.


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