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Ripp
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North Dakota Badlands pics
      #316445 - 16/05/18 10:27 PM

Drove back to North Dakota last weekend as my father turned 93.. kids have not seen him in almost 2 years, so, time for the 10 hour drive back...

On the way home we made a stop for a few hours in the south unit of Theodore Roosevelt National park..badlands area..have always enjoyed it there and did a lot of hunting along that area in the '80's.. Kids were able to see wild horses, bison, mule deer, pronghorn, prairie dogs ( one got run over by me accidently in the car ) and great sights..

20180512_161828 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180511_175533 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180516_055706 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180513_133941(0) by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180513_104021 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

Wild horses.
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20180513_125604 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180513_133858 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180513_135629 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180513_131846 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

Bison bedded down in the middle of a prairie dog town
20180513_130733 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

20180513_104021 by A Hoffart, on Flickr


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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316459 - 17/05/18 01:55 AM

Great pictures, Ripp. The badlands are really green right now, I see.
The pictures, although really good, do not do justice to this beautiful area, which must be appreciated in person - a must-see for anyone & a worthwhile stop when heading over towards Glacier National Park from the East.
Above the Alberta/Montana border, on the Canadian side, is the North End of Glacier National Park, which is Waterton National Park.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Daryl_S]
      #316466 - 17/05/18 05:03 AM

Great photos Ripp, looks like a lovely place. Grandad seems very happy to see the kids. Thanks for posting.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #316468 - 17/05/18 06:25 AM

Your dad is doing well for 93!
I think he got just as much of a kick out of the grandies as they of him - a precious photo that one mate.
Certainly green out that way at the moment, rather pretty photos, unfortunately can't do it justice!
Thanks mate, very much appreciate the vistas.
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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: 93x64mm]
      #316472 - 17/05/18 07:17 AM

Incredible country scenes out there!

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316473 - 17/05/18 07:36 AM

Looks like Grand Dad really enjoyed seeing the grand kids. Your father is doing well for 93 Ripp.

Great photo's, makes me wonder why they are called the Bad Lands.


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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Rule303]
      #316478 - 17/05/18 03:43 PM

nice to see wahtonka roaming free


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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Daryl_S]
      #316483 - 17/05/18 04:37 PM

Quote:

Great pictures, Ripp. The badlands are really green right now, I see.
The pictures, although really good, do not do justice to this beautiful area, which must be appreciated in person - a must-see for anyone & a worthwhile stop when heading over towards Glacier National Park from the East.
Above the Alberta/Montana border, on the Canadian side, is the North End of Glacier National Park, which is Waterton National Park.




One day I will manage to convince the wife to revisit the USA and I may get to see some of these grand sights myself.

I can imagine what the colours look like in person.

Quite keen to get to the USA. Would be great to visit people and places, and perhaps a beast or two as well. No doubt seasonal dependent though.

Two years is too long for grand parents not to see their grandkids. Well done on the trip Ripp.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Rule303]
      #316495 - 17/05/18 11:57 PM

Quote:

Looks like Grand Dad really enjoyed seeing the grand kids. Your father is doing well for 93 Ripp.

Great photo's, makes me wonder why they are called the Bad Lands.




Here is why..

The Lakota people were the first to call this place "mako sica" or "land bad." Extreme temperatures, lack of water, and the exposed rugged terrain led to this name. French-Canadian fur trappers also called it "les mauvais terres pour traverse," or "bad lands to travel through."

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: NitroX]
      #316496 - 18/05/18 12:01 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Great pictures, Ripp. The badlands are really green right now, I see.
The pictures, although really good, do not do justice to this beautiful area, which must be appreciated in person - a must-see for anyone & a worthwhile stop when heading over towards Glacier National Park from the East.
Above the Alberta/Montana border, on the Canadian side, is the North End of Glacier National Park, which is Waterton National Park.




One day I will manage to convince the wife to revisit the USA and I may get to see some of these grand sights myself.

I can imagine what the colours look like in person.

Quite keen to get to the USA. Would be great to visit people and places, and perhaps a beast or two as well. No doubt seasonal dependent though.

Two years is too long for grand parents not to see their grandkids. Well done on the trip Ripp.




Come.. will give you a personal tour for a bit..

And YES, as you and Daryl have eluded to, photos don't do it justice ..much prettier and grand in person...

I hunt in a badlands area every year for mule deer..usually throw on a pack and head in for a week or so by myself..been going that for over 25 years... one of my favorite hunts of the year...

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316499 - 18/05/18 01:04 AM

I would like to tag one of those buff with one of my sharps. Maybe my 50/90.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316501 - 18/05/18 01:43 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Looks like Grand Dad really enjoyed seeing the grand kids. Your father is doing well for 93 Ripp.

Great photo's, makes me wonder why they are called the Bad Lands.




Here is why..

The Lakota people were the first to call this place "mako sica" or "land bad." Extreme temperatures, lack of water, and the exposed rugged terrain led to this name. French-Canadian fur trappers also called it "les mauvais terres pour traverse," or "bad lands to travel through."




Obvious! Ffffing hard country to travel through!

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: NitroX]
      #316503 - 18/05/18 02:39 AM

Lots of Dino bones in there. A week would be a hard hunt - do it while you still can, Ripp.

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      #316513 - 18/05/18 08:54 AM

Quote:

Great photo's, makes me wonder why they are called the Bad Lands.




PS I wondered too then thought about how hard it would be to travel there. Interesting the description of the origins of the name.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Daryl_S]
      #316514 - 18/05/18 11:58 AM

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Lots of Dino bones in there. A week would be a hard hunt - do it while you still can, Ripp.




My great - great - grandfather, Siegmund Maria Rothhammer, described and drew diagrams of fossil beds in the Dakotas during the 'Sully Expedition' of 1862 - 65.

He also wrote of gold deposits, exposed burning seams of lignite, along with extremely detailed descriptions of all the flora and fauna that he encountered.

Prior to his emigration to the U.S. from Bavaria, he had been university trained (at Regensburg) as a botanist and naturalist. Since the Louisiana Purchase the U.S. government had been in need of detailed information regarding the new Western possessions and sought to attach scientists and naturalists to Western military excursions.

When 'Sig enlisted (6th Iowa Cavalry) he was fast tracked to a non com position as Hospital Steward, which allowed him time to collect specimens and write detailed reports. The samples he collected by the wagonload (troopers called him 'the bug collector') are still stored at the Smithsonian and North Dakota State Historical Society has his official reports and personal journals wherein he describes, in intimate detail, every sight, sound, and smell of the Dakotas that he encountered - even his first encounter with the American Bison (and why one shouldn't shoot a bison with an 1860 'Army Colt').

Rothhammer's writings are referred to in the textbooks used by North Dakota schools, but somehow his name has been changed (butchered) to 'Legismond' M. Rothhammer.


From Harper's Weekly, Oct. 31, 1863

Sully


Here's a bit about him in the Fort Rice newspaper, the Frontier Scout, from Sept. of '65:
Scout

Here is Rothhammer's article about burning seams of lignite coal in the previous issue of the Frontier Scout;
Scout

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #316515 - 18/05/18 12:54 PM

Great photos Ripp!
It is a beautiful, rugged area.

Rothhammer1,
Iím sure you know all of this and more but the US Civil War is a bit of an obsession of mine, especially the Iowa units.

6th Iowa Cav., Company B
Rothhammer, Siegmund M. Age 36. Residence Dubuque, nativity Germany. Enlisted Sept. 27,
1862. Mustered Nov. 12, 1862. Promoted Hospital Steward March 5, 1863. See Field and Staff.

My own Great great grandfather was in the 18th Iowa Infantry.
He went south, not west.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Iowa_303]
      #316517 - 18/05/18 01:49 PM

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Great photos Ripp!
It is a beautiful, rugged area.

Rothhammer1,
Iím sure you know all of this and more but the US Civil War is a bit of an obsession of mine, especially the Iowa units.




I was 'unawares' (that you specialize in Iowa Civil War history).

Here's a link to other issues of the Frontier Scout:
history.nd.gov

The Sully Expedition also incorporated 'Galvanized Yankees'(1st U.S.V. Infantry), former Confederate POWs that were allowed to go west and wear Union Blue if they promised to behave.


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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316522 - 18/05/18 04:32 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Looks like Grand Dad really enjoyed seeing the grand kids. Your father is doing well for 93 Ripp.

Great photo's, makes me wonder why they are called the Bad Lands.




Here is why..

The Lakota people were the first to call this place "mako sica" or "land bad." Extreme temperatures, lack of water, and the exposed rugged terrain led to this name. French-Canadian fur trappers also called it "les mauvais terres pour traverse," or "bad lands to travel through."




Thanks for the info Ripp, much appreciated.


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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Daryl_S]
      #316529 - 19/05/18 01:43 AM

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Lots of Dino bones in there. A week would be a hard hunt - do it while you still can, Ripp.




Years ago I was in ND bow hunting in the badlands..had permission on a large portion of private land along the Little Missouri River..was out hiking around.. later in the evening I decided to just drop off of a cliff area and head back to camp..about 1/3 of the way from the bottom I spotted a horn sticking out of dirt, walked over and started digging..was a complete skull of a bison below the cliff..looking around and doing more digging..actually found 6 complete skulls below that cliff..pretty cool.. fairly certain the natives in that area probably herded them off of that cliff to harvest them ..or, who knows, maybe they got spooked and bolted..either way, it appears it didn't end well for them..

Where I hunt in the badlands now in Montana..a major fire went through back in 2013..several of the coal seams caught fire and are now starting new grass fires almost every year as the conditions get dry...

Years ago a friend of mine and I were out hunting late in the year for coyotes..came across a mule deer buck that had fallen through a crevice with only his antlers catching on top ..however the coal was burning below him..the entire skeletal system was there but no meat or hide what so ever..all burned off.. crockpot style, slow cooker.. heck of a way to go..

Ripp

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316530 - 19/05/18 02:21 AM

Had you also found some little chipped flint or obsidian points, most like to call "bird points", it most certainly would have been a buffalo jump, or drop. These tiny points, 3/8"" to 3/4" wide were necessary for penetration in killing large game due to the relatively low power of the bows used by most Plains Indians.

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Daryl_S]
      #316533 - 19/05/18 02:41 AM

That's why I love this Forum: You find out all kinds of interesting things. I had never read about the 'Galvanised Yankees'.

I have a question about an ancestor who was in the 22nd Michigan Regiment, but I don't want to hijack this thread, so I shall PM 'Iowa 303'.

Toodle-pip!

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: HistoricBore]
      #316542 - 19/05/18 07:44 AM

Here is a Montana photo from yesterday...

32713877_10155645581554422_4673873889288257536_n by A Hoffart, on Flickr

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Re: North Dakota Badlands pics [Re: Ripp]
      #316554 - 19/05/18 07:08 PM

Ripp,
That is stunning country side.


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      #316557 - 19/05/18 08:15 PM

Fort Rice, Dakota Territory 1870:



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      #316562 - 19/05/18 11:01 PM

Beautiful photos!

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