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PapaScarface
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #315800 - 29/04/18 08:31 AM

Szihn, very nice work! Thank you for the info on the sights.

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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: PapaScarface]
      #315830 - 30/04/18 12:35 AM

I don't know what would be involved in bringing a 303 "Speed" back to Oz from the USA. It might be impossible (which is what the communists will want)

But if ever you are going to visit the USA and if you would know a year or so in advance, and if there is a way to legally bring it with you when you return home let me know. I may be able to have one ready for you.


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Rule303
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #315844 - 30/04/18 07:43 AM

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I don't know what would be involved in bringing a 303 "Speed" back to Oz from the USA. It might be impossible (which is what the communists will want)

But if ever you are going to visit the USA and if you would know a year or so in advance, and if there is a way to legally bring it with you when you return home let me know. I may be able to have one ready for you.





There is away. A bloke in Western Victoria does this for s reasonable price. The hic-up might be at your end Steve as I think you need clearance and to part with some dollars. If anybody in Aust. wants his details let me know and I'll get them from a mate who has used him.


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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Rule303]
      #315846 - 30/04/18 08:32 AM

Export licenses can be VERY expensive, Sates Side. Maybe that will change with the change in Government as it came about during the gay-man's 1st term.

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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Daryl_S]
      #316041 - 04/05/18 01:11 AM


Laws vary a great deal from country to country.

I have folks that come to pick up flintlock rifles from European nations. If they bring them in on the airplane coming back home, the tax is very low. If I ship them the tax is super high. So high that airfare, round trip, is cheaper.

That's why they come get them.

I have no idea how it would work with the Australian government. About 20 years ago a couple from New Zealand came and picked up 2 flintlocks from me. It was not a problem for them, but a 303 Lee is classes differently then a muzzle loader in most countries.

England has become impossible for all practical purposes. France and Germany are not too bad. Poland is supposed to be easy and Hungary is super easy. But England and all the countries it has influence over have become harder and harder (socialism at it's worst)with England itself being impossible. I never thought I's see the day, but now it's easier to get hunting rifles into and out of Russia than it is England.


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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316047 - 04/05/18 03:13 AM

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OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by Steve Zihn, on Flickr
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by Steve Zihn, on Flickr
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by Steve Zihn, on Flickr




Beautiful work Steve. Amazing how nice a rifle can be turned out with your skills.

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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: NitroX]
      #316060 - 04/05/18 01:31 PM

Thanks John
I hope to fill my freezer with the Irish Lee. The SMLE Lee is spoken for, and I hope the new owner will do the same.


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Iowa_303
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316116 - 05/05/18 03:31 PM

Quote:

Thanks John
I hope to fill my freezer with the Irish Lee. The SMLE Lee is spoken for, and I hope the new owner will do the same.




So does the new owner!

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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Iowa_303]
      #316118 - 05/05/18 03:41 PM

Great work Steve, came out great, Ive been working on my ones for over 10yrs including a .405 .375 & 303's some are getting close now lol !

Just bought a Sporter built on a LEC Carbine action as it had a Lee Speed front sight on the barrel, I have found a few rear sights & magazines but this was the first front sight Ive seen !

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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Sarg]
      #316128 - 06/05/18 01:29 AM

Cool Sarge..
Post a picture.


Matt, I was not going to spill the beans, but if it's OK with you I sure have no problem telling everyone that you are getting the new "deer slayer"


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Iowa_303
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316129 - 06/05/18 02:19 AM

No problem by me Steve.
I was going to be seen sooner or later anyway.

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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Iowa_303]
      #316135 - 06/05/18 06:42 AM

I ask one favor from you.
When you get the rifle you need to change your name to Iowa 303s instead of Iowa 303.


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Iowa_303
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316138 - 06/05/18 08:03 AM

Quote:

I ask one favor from you.
When you get the rifle you need to change your name to Iowa 303s instead of Iowa 303.





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JohnK
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Iowa_303]
      #316259 - 10/05/18 04:37 PM

I have my Lee Speed "look a like" sighted for Woodleigh 215 gn projectiles. Velocity is around 2200 FPS. I have shot a few pigs and goats. Never recovered any projectiles as they completely penetrated. A couple of photos.





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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: JohnK]
      #316263 - 10/05/18 11:03 PM

That's a sharp looking rifle JohnK. Can you post a picture of the other side too?

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Daryl_S
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316269 - 11/05/18 01:46 AM

Ohh NICE, no, lovely, perhaps spectacular piece of walnut.
That is a nice rifle.

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JohnK
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316277 - 11/05/18 09:50 AM

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That's a sharp looking rifle JohnK. Can you post a picture of the other side too?




I posted a few photos a few years ago but I see they have all been removed (Photobucket).

A couple of photos of the rifle as requested.







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szihn
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: JohnK]
      #316282 - 11/05/18 01:59 PM

Just wonderful!

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MickoC
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #316367 - 14/05/18 06:07 PM

Lovely job ,I noticed you have also retained the bolt dust cover as per the originals.
Did you do the wood work and the metal work yourself.


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Rule303
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: JohnK]
      #316368 - 14/05/18 08:44 PM

That's a nice looking rifle JohnK. Who did the stock work? Was it Daryl Stephenson?

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JohnK
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: MickoC]
      #316384 - 15/05/18 07:26 AM

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Lovely job ,I noticed you have also retained the bolt dust cover as per the originals.
Did you do the wood work and the metal work yourself.




Tony Small built the rifle. I only supplied the action. Yes kept the dust cover.

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JohnK
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Rule303]
      #316385 - 15/05/18 07:27 AM

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That's a nice looking rifle JohnK. Who did the stock work? Was it Daryl Stephenson?




Tony Small done all the work. The stock blank came from Tasmania.

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Marc
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: szihn]
      #318359 - 23/07/18 04:19 AM

Howdy guys,

Here is my work rifle. I bought it randomly at a local gunshop, it was cheap. No one uses this ammo at hunting here, but it turned out to be my meat-on-the-table rifle. Underpowered compared to what others own, but it's very accurate, fast, reliable and it makes up. Moreother, it's not pretty, and I don't know why but I like it.

I shoot Sierra Pro hunter 180 grs at around 2,300fps. I appreciate this bullet weight because in my forest, I can shoot from 2 to 200 yards. The load is very accurate, but I'm rather disappointed by the results regarding boar hunting.
A few months ago I shot a boar 4 meters away. The boar fell down straight away, but a fmj would have done exactly the same job, without any expansion.
I reckon I'll figure out a load using patch papered slug...



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Daryl_S
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Marc]
      #318363 - 23/07/18 08:31 AM

Marc - is that a #4 with the receiver sight base milled off and an open sight mounted ahead of the action?

If wanting to use a paper patched slug, I would 'slug' the bore and measure it carefully to ascertain the actual groove diameter, then get a mould that cast a lead slug approximately .300" in diameter, then paper patch it to fit the grooves - or .001" to .002" larger than the groove diameter.

With a hard alloy paper patched bullet, there would be no velocity limit as-with grooved lubricated bullets.

You would be able to load them to 2,500fps if you wanted to, depending on the weight.

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yumastepside
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Re: Hunting with the 303, please report [Re: Daryl_S]
      #318366 - 23/07/18 05:04 PM

......the first thing I noticed was the lack of bridge and the one piece stock.....very interesting.

Roger

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