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PapaScarface
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Modern .303 doubles?
      #315669 - 26/04/18 09:31 PM

What gunmakers are currently making 303 sxs double rifles other then Anderson Wheeler and VC?
I priced a VC mid last year with the Aussie importer at about 16k for an absolute base model, no engraving/low grade wood.

Just wondering if I have missed any other modern options?


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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: PapaScarface]
      #315676 - 26/04/18 11:40 PM

Boss and PURDEY will build 303 double rifles

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: Ahmed577]
      #315717 - 27/04/18 10:14 AM

I'd be keen to build one, personally.

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: Dogfish858]
      #315719 - 27/04/18 11:45 AM

Ron Vella (of this site and Oshawa, Ont.) might be able to inspire you, Dogfish!

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: Daryl_S]
      #315763 - 28/04/18 08:34 AM

I have considered attempting to build one, but ah not with my gunsmithimg skills lol

Thank you Ahmed Iíll look into both of those


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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: PapaScarface]
      #315836 - 30/04/18 04:14 AM

You might contact Aaron Little, in Texas.

He built my 600NE

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post305805

and my 700NE.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post280803

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: PapaScarface]
      #315930 - 02/05/18 08:16 AM

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Thank you Ahmed Iíll look into both of those




Just add a zero to the end for those though. Good luck.

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: NitroX]
      #315960 - 02/05/18 10:29 PM

Buy a Chapuis Round action in 30/30 and punch it out to .303 . It will be a .308 bullet instead of .311, but you can hand load and have a better selection of bullets. You can get a Chapuis for under 11K with the work done and reregulation. I bought mine from JJ Perodeau and I'm very pleased with it.
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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #315966 - 02/05/18 11:40 PM

Another of those bastardised non .303's .... groan.

I am guesing PapaScarface being an Aussie wants a real .303 not some "claytons" yankified version of one ...

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: NitroX]
      #315978 - 03/05/18 03:06 AM

Quote:

Another of those bastardised non .303's .... groan.
I am guesing PapaScarface being an Aussie wants a real .303 not some "claytons" yankified version of one ...



Not only that; unless the rifle is marked very obviously as some wildcat chambering, what happens some time later when a standard .303 gets loaded and the trigger pulled?
- thoughts on resale value of a double rifle in a non standard (bastard) chambering?
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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: 3DogMike]
      #315980 - 03/05/18 03:46 AM

Man, a .303 Double would be a very fun rifle to have...

Ripp

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: Ripp]
      #315986 - 03/05/18 06:44 AM

Quote:

Man, a .303 Double would be a very fun rifle to have...

Ripp




Yes indeed!









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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: CptCurl]
      #315991 - 03/05/18 11:13 AM

Damn Curl,
I get excited every time you post those rifles.

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bwanabobftw
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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: CptCurl]
      #315993 - 03/05/18 11:29 AM

Sorry if I offended anyone, I was merely trying to give Papascarface a cheaper alternative to a more expensive double. As far as my "303" is concerned I ordered an extra set of 30/30 BBL's to an existing 6.5x57R double rifle and had them rechambered and regulated and scoped. The new BBL's are clearly marked "303/.308". With my aging eyes it's getting harder and harder to see the front sites on my vintage double in .303 and I didn't want to devalue it by adding a scope. But, still wanted a rimmed .30 cal double rifle to shoot.
Robert


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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: CptCurl]
      #315994 - 03/05/18 12:29 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Man, a .303 Double would be a very fun rifle to have...

Ripp




Yes indeed!









Curl




That is a beautiful rifle..congrats..

Ripp

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #315995 - 03/05/18 12:30 PM

Quote:

Sorry if I offended anyone, I was merely trying to give Papascarface a cheaper alternative to a more expensive double. As far as my "303" is concerned I ordered an extra set of 30/30 BBL's to an existing 6.5x57R double rifle and had them rechambered and regulated and scoped. The new BBL's are clearly marked "303/.308". With my aging eyes it's getting harder and harder to see the front sites on my vintage double in .303 and I didn't want to devalue it by adding a scope. But, still wanted a rimmed .30 cal double rifle to shoot.
Robert




Don't think you offended anyone... keep posting..

Enjoy your input

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: 3DogMike]
      #315998 - 03/05/18 12:44 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Another of those bastardised non .303's .... groan.
I am guesing PapaScarface being an Aussie wants a real .303 not some "claytons" yankified version of one ...



Not only that; unless the rifle is marked very obviously as some wildcat chambering, what happens some time later when a standard .303 gets loaded and the trigger pulled?
- thoughts on resale value of a double rifle in a non standard (bastard) chambering?
- Mike




If the .303 is chambered using a standard reamer, with just the pilot undersized, there is ZERO problem shooting a .303 factory round in that double. There is no pressure increase.
My friend has just such a bastardized rifle with .308" groove diameter - he loves it.

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #316014 - 03/05/18 07:58 PM

Quote:

Sorry if I offended anyone, I was merely trying to give Papascarface a cheaper alternative to a more expensive double. As far as my "303" is concerned I ordered an extra set of 30/30 BBL's to an existing 6.5x57R double rifle and had them rechambered and regulated and scoped. The new BBL's are clearly marked "303/.308". With my aging eyes it's getting harder and harder to see the front sites on my vintage double in .303 and I didn't want to devalue it by adding a scope. But, still wanted a rimmed .30 cal double rifle to shoot.
Robert




Robert, I was going to mention the need to re-regulate the new barrels. Good to see you did what you said could be done. Can I ask what was the additional cost of the the rechambering and regulation? And who did it for you? Great to see it was successful.

My comments are along the lines, a .303/.308 ain't a .303 though. Us Aussies and Brits and Anglophiles have an affection for the .303 British. Similar to if someone says, they want a .30-06 Springfield rifle, then talk about having say an 8mm bore. It ain't a .30-06 by any means anymore.

If using .308 calibre bullets and bores, I think personally I would go for the classic .30 Super / .300 H&H Rimmed as the chambering. Not sure if there are any advantages or disadvantages of a wild cat .303/.308 or a .30 Super, other than one being a factory loading. Both would almost certainlky need handloading anyway.

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: CptCurl]
      #316015 - 03/05/18 08:00 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Man, a .303 Double would be a very fun rifle to have...

Ripp




Yes indeed!









Curl




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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: Ahmed577]
      #316023 - 03/05/18 09:49 PM

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Boss and PURDEY will build 303 double rifles




While on the subject ...

Ahmed577 sent me these two images of his Boss .303 side by side.

The first image with scope. The second image of his newly made rifle with an older side by side also in .303.

Exquisite!





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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: NitroX]
      #316027 - 03/05/18 10:06 PM

While on the subject of .303's ...

"The .303 in Africa"

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: NitroX]
      #316028 - 03/05/18 10:09 PM

A question for .303 British chambered double rifle owners.

What bullet and bullet weight did you choose your rifle to be regulated with? Or for for Curl , what bullet and weight are all your .303 DRs regulated for, or a regulation load discovered for?

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: NitroX]
      #316057 - 04/05/18 11:16 AM

My Webley & Scott is regulated for the traditional 215 grain bullet, and it tells you so.



But having been made in 1937 it is proofed for the MkVII service round.





The Purdey, Holland & Holland, and Westley Richards are all regulated for the 215 grain bullet also.



Links for your enjoyment:

The Purdey:
http://rbsiii.com/collection/rifles/Purdey_303/
and
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....rt=all&vc=1

The Holland & Holland:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....0&fpart=all

The Westley Richards:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....rt=all&vc=1

The Webley & Scott:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=149258&an=0&page=3#Post149258


I like them!

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: NitroX]
      #316059 - 04/05/18 11:22 AM

John,
JJ Perodeau did the work on my .303/.308. He also ordered the BBL's as well. The BBL's were about $3000 and then I think I paid him $200 for chamber and $800 for regulation.I supplied the ammo, I worked a load up in a Ruger #1. We talked about a 30 super, JJ really wanted to built one. The supply of 30 super brass is pretty tight. So I went for the 303/308 (lots of brass choices and lots of bullet choices). My next project maybe a 30 super ????????

In my "real .303" I shoot the Woodeigh 215 grain bullets, a bit pricey but worth every penny.

The Boss and Purdy .303's are breath taking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Modern .303 doubles? [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #316064 - 04/05/18 04:16 PM

Thanks Curl. I was guessing the 215 gr was the standard regulation load for most.

Robert, thanks for the reply. $800 is a pretty good price for regulation I think. And the barrel price wasn't bad either.

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