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rpeck
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Mauser 66
      #315935 - 02/05/18 09:35 AM

I have two Mauser 66s, an 8x68S rifle with Schmidt & Bender 2.5-10x56 in claw mounts and a fullstock carbine in 30-06 with an LER 2.5x Leupold mounted "Scout Rifle" style. Both are early models from the late 60's. Both have DST and the early model safety. However, note the fluted bolt housing on the rifle.








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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: rpeck]
      #315955 - 02/05/18 07:58 PM

The bolt appears to have extensive alteration as well, my guess is an aftermarket alteration for an inexplicable reason

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: paradox_]
      #315958 - 02/05/18 09:06 PM

In my opinion and according to my experience the bolt handle has not been altered.
Both 66' Mauser are of the first type but the stutzen is older and still has a forged bolt handle while the rifle version is equipped with the new welded handle for lower scope mounting (circa end of 1967 start of 1968)
This is difficult to see with the provided photos but the stutzen must also have a shorter rib and neither model has a separate bolt stop.
The Mauser 66 is one of those rifles that were born near perfect and have evolved in the wrong direction of simplification.

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: DORLEAC]
      #315988 - 03/05/18 08:11 AM

Stutzen is dated on barrel July, 1968 (768)and the rifle is dated on barrel December 1968 (1268)

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: rpeck]
      #316004 - 03/05/18 03:44 PM

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Stutzen is dated on barrel July, 1968 (768)and the rifle is dated on barrel December 1968 (1268)




Proof dates are correct with the variation in production.
You have two fine samples of this model with the stutzen being first production run.

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: DORLEAC]
      #316021 - 03/05/18 09:19 PM

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The Mauser 66 is one of those rifles that were born near perfect and have evolved in the wrong direction of simplification.




I've always liked the Germanic styling of the Mauser 66. Would have loved one once upon a time. Other than the rifle being over weight, a beautiful rifle.

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: NitroX]
      #316031 - 03/05/18 10:32 PM

Quote:

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The Mauser 66 is one of those rifles that were born near perfect and have evolved in the wrong direction of simplification.




I've always liked the Germanic styling of the Mauser 66. Would have loved one once upon a time. Other than the rifle being over weight, a beautiful rifle.





Weight of the 30-06 Stutzen (including Leupold scope and steel Talley rings) is 7 lb. 10 oz.

Weight of the 8x68S rifle (without S&B scope) is 7 lb. 10 oz.

S&B Scope with mounts is 1 lb. 8 oz. Weights are approximate.

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: rpeck]
      #316032 - 03/05/18 10:43 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The Mauser 66 is one of those rifles that were born near perfect and have evolved in the wrong direction of simplification.




I've always liked the Germanic styling of the Mauser 66. Would have loved one once upon a time. Other than the rifle being over weight, a beautiful rifle.





Weight of the 30-06 Stutzen (including Leupold scope and steel Talley rings) is 7 lb. 10 oz.

Weight of the 8x68S rifle (without S&B scope) is 7 lb. 10 oz.

S&B Scope with mounts is 1 lb. 8 oz. Weights are approximate. Other than the rifle being over weight




That isn't too bad. I remember when they were written up in Australia, the total weight including scope for a 8x68S was close to 4.5 kg or close to 10 lbs.

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: DORLEAC]
      #316050 - 04/05/18 06:44 AM

Quote:

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Stutzen is dated on barrel July, 1968 (768)and the rifle is dated on barrel December 1968 (1268)




Proof dates are correct with the variation in production.
You have two fine samples of this model with the stutzen being first production run.

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Thank you for your expertise.


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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: rpeck]
      #317343 - 17/06/18 08:45 AM

Hi,just seen your 66s posting....the fluted action was on the first pre-production model...looks like the 8-68 is very rare,and perhaps the pre-production action was in inventory,then used.Years ago i came across one in nz...but it actually had mauser 65 stamped on it!.In john speeds mauser book hes got mention of the pre production rifle.....it looks fantastic by the way! cheers Mark

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: markinnz]
      #318379 - 24/07/18 12:17 AM

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Hi,just seen your 66s posting....the fluted action was on the first pre-production model...looks like the 8-68 is very rare,and perhaps the pre-production action was in inventory,then used.Years ago i came across one in nz...but it actually had mauser 65 stamped on it!.In john speeds mauser book hes got mention of the pre production rifle.....it looks fantastic by the way! cheers Mark





This is the first I have heard of a pre-production fluted receiver. I have never seen another one.Very interesting information. Thanks. However, although I do see Jon Speed's mention of the pre-production rifle, I see no mention of a "fluted" action. How do we know the fluted action is pre-production?

My 8-68 rifle has three "serial" numbers stamped on it.

- On the left side of the barrel between two German proof marks is stamped: 1268 (December 1968, I assume).
- On the left side of the front receiver ring (actually an extension of the barrel) is one proof mark and the number: G10106
- On the right side of the rear reciever (sliding fluted section)is the number: DBP 1205 423

Do any of these other "serial numbers" mean anything to you?

Edited by rpeck (24/07/18 02:57 AM)


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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: rpeck]
      #322974 - 03/01/19 08:16 PM

Hi sorry those numbers don't ring a bell.Heres a few pics of a 66s Diplomat I got hold of, due to be restored soon, and getting the gold borderline redone.Its a 3006 and made in 1968.

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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: markinnz]
      #322977 - 03/01/19 11:53 PM

Congratulations on your new acquisition, Marc.
It is most likely an early model proofed in July 1968 (768); at a later stage Mauser changed the dating system and went to a two-letter code for identifying the production/proofing year. Such models were marketed as Mauser 66 Model Europa; one can immediately spot them because of their metallic rear sight (later models were plastic and had a Lyman look) and of their safety (later models from 66S have a side safety that is to be pushed forward, on the rear right side of the bolt).
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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: Louis]
      #322978 - 03/01/19 11:59 PM

If anybody wants a scanned copy of the operator's manual (32-page booklet in both English & French) that was given by Mauser along with models 66, please PM me your email address.
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Re: Mauser 66 [Re: Louis]
      #322988 - 04/01/19 08:16 AM

Whatta nice 66. Its a prize gun to own in that style.

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