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Louis
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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #312537 - 17/02/18 08:01 PM

Congratulations on your work, Lancaster, that's a superb achievement.
Did you craft the horn trigger plate yourself or did you order it from somebody else; I am asking as I would need one for my Sauer & Sohn M.54 bockbüchsflinte?
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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: Louis]
      #312547 - 18/02/18 02:46 AM

old gunmaker stock I got some years ago, made before 1914
this things were not carved but imho, it was an early plastik and cast. I will look for you if there is another horn trigger guard in this box.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #312554 - 18/02/18 06:38 AM

Thank you Lars.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: Louis]
      #312557 - 18/02/18 07:56 AM

louis, here they are



only this are made of horn




style looks more interwar




you can bend horn trigger guards by cooking them in water for 20 minutes.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #313487 - 05/03/18 03:14 AM

done before










old german made chassepot rifle http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6867216

thinking I come close to the old rifle here





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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #313488 - 05/03/18 03:25 AM



The bolt appears to have a leather/rubber/or other material washer around it to seal powder gasses. Is this correct.
I have oft wondered how they did this.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: DarylS]
      #313493 - 05/03/18 05:09 AM

hello Daryl, it rubber, back in the days natural rubber
Chassepot was the inventor of this method

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: DarylS]
      #313502 - 05/03/18 10:59 AM

Quote:



The bolt appears to have a leather/rubber/or other material washer around it to seal powder gasses. Is this correct.
I have oft wondered how they did this.




Check these links;

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #313506 - 05/03/18 11:54 AM

tks Lancaster - appeared so.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: DarylS]
      #313513 - 05/03/18 01:06 PM

Well done lancaster!
A project to be very proud of.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #313524 - 05/03/18 10:01 PM

here is how the action works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX0cEXXydro

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #313527 - 06/03/18 03:53 AM

tks - as I imagined it working. Weird language - couldn't understand a word.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: DarylS]
      #313534 - 06/03/18 05:17 AM

you have time, dont you have
look for a girl friend from quebec and you will learn in bed

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #315563 - 23/04/18 03:33 AM

thats the grand daddy,german cavalry carbine made by cuting down rifles form the war 70/71 as a stop gap until the gun firms had time to make the mauser carbine M 71













http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6933862

this was one of the inspirations for my project

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #321752 - 21/11/18 04:54 AM

this is what many old chassepot ends in the years before the great war
belgian 12 ga single shot gun http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7150362











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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #321756 - 21/11/18 06:28 AM

Quote:

you have time, dont you have
look for a girl friend from quebec and you will learn in bed




Saw a bunch of good looking ones in Montreal and Quebec City last summer - was with my wife so looking only. LOL - as if anything else COULD happen.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: DarylS]
      #321813 - 24/11/18 12:31 AM

another well made chassepot hunting rifle
https://brocarmes.fr/shop/armes-historiq...le-11mm-signee/


























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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #331612 - 24/08/19 05:05 AM

sometimes its possible but to much














http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7552981

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #339161 - 18/03/20 06:07 AM

its time to leave the toilet paper and go back to business!
get a package back from a miss who cut checkering, its woman work here.



the chassepot stock and because it was a good opportunity the stock of my M 88.
bought this rifle years ago, the stock was brocken once and fixed with a oak wood piece from both sides.

before






and now




you see the new made checkering hide the break very good, the oak wood seems now very ligthish







have to grap it with dirty hands, blackpowder best


this is the chasspot stock, allready oiled with 40 years old suhl gun stock oil







start to brown the small parts, small things like screws will get fire blueing





checkerring was made like we see it on dreyse stalking rilfes

paying less than 200 euro including shipment, thinking its fine

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #339187 - 18/03/20 11:05 PM

Quote:

its time to leave the toilet paper and go back to business!
get a package back from a miss who cut checkering, its woman work here.





Lancaster I must say that the Lass who done that work can certainly do a bloody good job at that!


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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: 93x64mm]
      #339196 - 19/03/20 05:00 AM

yes, I hope the rifle will be acceptable in the end

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #339202 - 19/03/20 06:47 PM

Congratulations on your very well done restauration work, Lancaster; now looking forward to the next stages!
Louis

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: Louis]
      #339208 - 20/03/20 06:39 AM

Nice job on a lovely piece of wood.

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: DarylS]
      #339209 - 20/03/20 07:01 AM

maybe next sunday the rifle will be ready and completed, only the barrel still white because when sighting the gun it could be the front sight have to be changed in height

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Re: Chassepot needle fire Stutzen projekt [Re: lancaster]
      #339280 - 23/03/20 06:17 AM

lost so much time try to get toilet paper I decided today to made something useful! the parts were browned last week. dont know how many times I did it maybe 8-10 times. first all 12 hours than all 24 hours.
you wipe the fluid over the polished steel and let it dry. when the time is over you remove the "rust" with fine steel wool and wipe again




when you thinking its enough you polish the parts with steel wool and heat them with a gas burner. there is fluid in the "brown" surface, suspect its water. you can see it dry very quickly. after this you oil the parts, I take WD 40, and see how the brown surface absorb the oil.




other parts get a fire bluing what is much simpler to make




of course, not the trigger spring




than the best part starting after 12 years I work on this project now





barrel ist still white, will get the antique brown also when sighted but because of miss corona all shooting ranges are closed now.










the unload ramrod got a thread the other end so will handle a brush if in need








need green cloth to lining the patch box inside









its the right retro vintage look for me!

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