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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #306454 - 15/10/17 08:35 PM

Jørgen bought the Mod. 38 , SN 382



here with Stutzen SN 380






hope he will get a good buck next may with his new aquisition to get an action pic for the "europe" site
http://www.schultz-larsenrifleclub.dk/europa.htm

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307095 - 01/11/17 12:42 AM

time for a M 38 family portrait from denkmark




SN 380, 382 and 396





396 have rust in the barrel and get a new/ old one by Henrik who was working for Schultz&Larsen once





another original M 42 that need sa new barrel too



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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307181 - 03/11/17 01:36 AM

Wow, these pictures of older Schultz and Larsen rifles are killing me. I had to open the safe and cuddle a while with my 54j....

I wonder why the model 54j, 60, 65, and 68 are drilled and taped on the right side for
a receiver sight yet few, other than dangerous game calibers, come with front sights. Interesting.


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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: cordite]
      #307185 - 03/11/17 06:31 AM

dont know, will ask

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: cordite]
      #307200 - 04/11/17 02:16 AM

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Wow, these pictures of older Schultz and Larsen rifles are killing me. I had to open the safe and cuddle a while with my 54j....

I wonder why the model 54j, 60, 65, and 68 are drilled and taped on the right side for
a receiver sight yet few, other than dangerous game calibers, come with front sights. Interesting.




please show pics with the drilled holes you mean, it seems you dont talk about the drilled and taped holes for the scope bases but other are non- standard.
the receiver is extra hard but I think it would be not impossible you have some american made modification. anyway its unclear so we have to take a look inside.


M 54



M 65 receiver


















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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307210 - 04/11/17 05:50 AM

Thanks for posting this information.

You catalog picture of the 54j action clearly shows the two holes for a receiver sight. The text states that the receiver is tapped on the side "for Lyman and other American receiver sights".

Every rifle that I have seen has these holes barely visible above the stock wood. The stock would have to be cut for a receiver sight to be installed. My 54j was altered, a receiver sight and a front sight installed, post factory work I'm sure. The is fine for me as I prefer a receiver sight for much of my shooting.


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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: cordite]
      #307211 - 04/11/17 06:10 AM

you mean this holes





I never realy notice them before but having only the M 42

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307222 - 04/11/17 10:00 AM

Yes, those holes will fit any receiver sight that works on a 98 mauser.

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: cordite]
      #307296 - 06/11/17 12:25 AM

lyman sights were not uncommon in those days
here on SN 1686 - very early made - target rifle




here are th holes on a M54J - “J” for jagt = hunting - cal. 7x61S&H, SN 2327


the rifle 2015 in poland



I have got this answer about it
"These holes are not on Mod. 65 - 65DL and 68DL"

probably the times were changing quickly in the 1960s.
scopes and scope mounts were expensive in 1954 more than most people had for a gun budget. its was completly different to our times and the lyman sight was cheap when the scope was expensive.

SN 396 and 522 get a new barrel now












new made 6,5x58RD reamer





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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307428 - 08/11/17 06:08 AM

I stand corrected

this Model 60 SN 4078 in 7mm Rem Mag show the holes for the lyman peep sight




but the Mod. 65DL and 68DL dont have them anymore

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307434 - 08/11/17 08:32 AM

I just looked at two 65dls for sale on the internet, serial numbers 8459 and 10,218. Both have the receiver sight holes.

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: cordite]
      #307470 - 08/11/17 03:43 PM

yes, the holes are there
mostly hidden by the stock and never notice by european gunowner

Edited by lancaster (09/11/17 06:12 AM)


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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #307538 - 10/11/17 06:53 AM

very rare 458 Win Mag Model 68 for sale
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100832657
dont happen any day













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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #308038 - 21/11/17 07:43 AM

louis give me a hint that Mister Dorleac offer a Model 65 DL in 7x61 S&H
http://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/arme/mod-65dl-7x61-sharpe-hart-2/?lang=en
and like usual what was in his golden hands come to a new life again































the rifle itself is mixed, in my eye's the more interesting one's




The “savfty” is from a Mod. 68DL, = No.1.

No. 2 Mod. 65 and 65DL.

No. 3. Mod 60.





The stock is from a Mod. 60, as the photo, with a screw.



The white spot is for Mod. 65-65DL and 68DL.






















mod. 68 DL 6,5x55 and 30 06 in canada and greenland
pics coming from Claus in denmark, thank you!





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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #308041 - 21/11/17 08:46 AM

Thanks lancaster - VERY interesting change on the brass from the older standard 7x61 and the newer 7x61Super brass, having thinner brass, greater capacity.

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: Daryl_S]
      #308155 - 23/11/17 06:22 AM

some pics showing the M 38, SN 396 and M 42, SN 522 with the new barrels in 6,5x58RD and 8x58RD









ready for blueing the barrel and finish the stock

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #308161 - 23/11/17 07:11 AM

Coming along nicely Lancaster!
They certainly came in some very good calibres .308 & .358 Norma Magnum another set of under valued cartridges!


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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #308636 - 03/12/17 05:32 PM

some collector cartridges from the Dansk ammo factory, the joint venture between Norma and Schultz&Larsen










the swedish connection






an unknown 11x40R shotgun cartridge made by cut down old military 8x58RD surplus brass, probably for smooth boored remington rolling blocks

dont know if this was made for garden guns or for the royal greenland trading company to shot snow grouse



Colors = Shot siz .
Red, = 7,

Dark red = 8,

Black = 9,

White = 10


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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #309388 - 24/12/17 02:38 AM

again a very nice M 38 Stutzen, SN 387 for sale http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/fuldsk...-kal/i4871012/#












caliber is 6,5x55 and because the Mod. 38 was only made in 6,5x58R and 8x58RD its a post war conversion.
muzzle looks like a liner was used




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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #309777 - 01/01/18 09:53 PM

the SN 387 above is not chambered for the 6,5x55 but like the other in 6,5x58RD.
got this about the Model 38 and the problem today to determine the correct caliber

"Model Number 24 (from 1924) was developed as a rifle for shooting range
and competition in caliber .22 – it is the first rifle where every component was
manufactured at the factory in Otterup.
In 1938, Model 38 was introduced in large calibre, as a hunting rifle, with
three cartridges in the column magazine. Like the Model 24, the barrel,
action, stock, open sights and tigger was made at the factory in Otterup.
Lowest know number : 128
Highest known number : 421
Niels Larsen, from Schultz & Larsen, had participated in the Olympics in
paris, 1924 and won a Bronze Medal in the 600 meter free rifle discipline. At
this event Niels Larsen noticed a rifleman from Estonia, carrying a rifle , that
inspired Niels Larsen to develop a new rifle with 4 lugs design, locking the
bolt securely in the action.
A good part of the first rifles after model 38, including the prototypes, are
marked with the following markings : 6.5 & 6.5R on the barrel. These
markings has been a bit of a puzzle and have generated lots of questions
over time. Solving the puzzle has been a real challenge and taken a long
time, because all the original gunsmiths of Schultz & Larsen are long gone.
We believe that the puzzle may have been solved, especially by looking at
the material gathered from knowledge of ; Model 38, prototypes and
Mauser/Otterup.
My dad, and many other have used the Danish Krag Jorgensen Model 89 at
the shooting range. These rifles had been fitted with new barrels,
manufactured and fitted by Schultz & Larsen in caliber 6.5x58RD
It is my believe, that a good part of these barrels, have been marked 6.5 &
6.5R on the barrel, but without actually finishing the barrels before 1945. The
rifle bore is always made before the chamber, and in this case, they have
been finished in the new 6.5x55mm caliber instead of what was first intended.
6.5x55mm came to Denmark with the return of the Danish Brigade on May
5th. 1945 – they all carried the Swedish Carl Gustav/Husqvarna/Mauser 96 in
caliber 6.5x55mm (swedish)
In cooperation with his sons Uffe and fritz Schultz Larsen, both Engineers,
Niels Larsen developes the model 38, 1938 for hunting. It has a full length stock
(carabin) and later a model for the shooting range called model 48, in 1948.
These models can be found in the following calibers : 8x58RD. = 8mm =
8x58Krag og 6,5x58RD.
RD = R for rand, D for Danish.
The bolthandle can be found in a ball and a flat design"

so the barrels laying on stock marked 6,5& 6,5R for use in the caliber you need and this confuse today.


the same man doing the same work no matter which action was on hand
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/mauser-k98-riffel-med-otterup-pibe-kal-6-5x54/i4881205/#
Mauser 98 in 6,5x54 post war sporter from Otterup















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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #310618 - 19/01/18 12:49 AM

old pics from a ph in Kenia, old times before it became a s.....e

rifle number two was a a Mod. 68 , SN 13226 in 458 WInMag









Rigby, London, has changed the magazine bottom for the No. 13226, and it looks like Mod. 38 lever now







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Edited by lancaster (19/01/18 12:54 AM)


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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #310709 - 20/01/18 07:24 PM

Nowadays he would want a FN Fal, AR, or AK for shooting "ferals" as well ...

BTW calling shitholes, s.....e's nowadays is very offensive to the shithole's residents and black corrupt Presidents ...

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: NitroX]
      #310724 - 20/01/18 09:13 PM

excuse me, but you misunderstand
I was meaning "safe places"

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: lancaster]
      #310727 - 20/01/18 09:19 PM

Ha ha.

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Re: Schultz&Larsen Stutzen [Re: NitroX]
      #314152 - 19/03/18 07:09 PM

two pics showing the first test of the M 38 and M 42 from above





nothing unusual to see on the rifles so they are back to original factory standard

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