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deeangeo
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Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903
      #312539 - 17/02/18 10:19 PM

Question:
Does anyone experience different extraction/insert tensions in getting the pin out or re-inserting the pin in the barrel/forestock on their Takedown rifles?

I notice at times my pin can be extremely difficult to remove & replace, sometimes really easy and slick.
Maybe it's the weather, but I believe my rifles are always kept at a moderate temperature and certainly not in a damp atmosphere. So I don't really understand what's causing the changes.

When I say difficult extraction, I'm talking of depressing the pin and absolutely unable to remove or re-insert the pin without the aid of a light tap using a plastic handle on a large screwdriver.
When it's easy, just depress the pin release and pull, comes out easy peasy.
It is the original pin and the barrel/stock are original all components holding matchiong serial numbers.

Thoughts and comments welcome.
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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: deeangeo]
      #312540 - 17/02/18 11:17 PM

Deeangeo. Always smooth extraction for my detachable stock M1905, M1908 and M1910. Best regards. Louis

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deeangeo
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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: Louis]
      #312542 - 18/02/18 01:00 AM

Thanks Louis, - mine also is a normal removal/insertion much of the time.
But when it goes tight, I just can’t work out the reason why & wonder if others occasionally experience a similar change.
Cheers, d.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: deeangeo]
      #312544 - 18/02/18 01:41 AM

Mine is always tight.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: casper50]
      #312549 - 18/02/18 03:27 AM

Quote:

Mine is always tight.



Tight to the point where you need to give ‘assistance’?
Does it get easier as ambient temperature rises?
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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: deeangeo]
      #312561 - 18/02/18 09:12 AM

Doesn't get any easier for any reason. I always have to push it out from the rear with something.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: casper50]
      #312562 - 18/02/18 09:56 AM

The degree of difficulty on mine changes with the weather, primarily humidity. I now keep a moisture remover in my safe and that seemed to have settled things down.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: fsrmg1]
      #312569 - 18/02/18 10:57 AM

Hmmm thanks you guys.

It seems I’m not alone with this issue.
I can only imagine it’s an air moisture/temperature related thing, but mine does change from being easy and slick, to so tight it needs some pursuasion.

I wish it wouldn’t do that as it’s not kept in poor or damp, or even particularly variable temperature conditions, but something certainly does cause these changes.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: deeangeo]
      #312573 - 18/02/18 12:36 PM

Given the well seasoned Walnut you should be able to rule out any wood movement. One of my 1903s is a little too easy, to the point where I worry about losing it in the field.....but it is consistently so. All others are fine.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: paradox_]
      #312587 - 18/02/18 06:07 PM


I've never had any trouble with pin fitment of my M1910, but have heard of this issue before.

Mine has been from Ceylon (where Grand dad bought it ca. 1930-31) to Singapore (ca. 1934-40), then Southern California, the Channel Islands (briefly in 1950s), back to So. Cal (sat 'taken down' in fitted case for three decades), to Santa Cruz (with me), Northern Arizona (where I reloaded for and used it), now the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.

I have read advice from others to store it assembled to avoid the pin alignment issue, but IIRC that was from people who live in very humid climates. I store it assembled in a silicon impregnated soft sleeve which, in turn, is in a canvas Boyt case.

Maybe it's a good thing I didn't have it in Florida.

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #312594 - 18/02/18 09:08 PM

Thanks guys.
I can confirm it's always stored assembled and also the wood well seasoned with the original serial number stamped into the stock fore end. (1922 proof date on action & barrel)

I have no idea at all what causes the shift in ease of removal/replacement of the takedown pin!

Hopefully later this year May onwards the rifle will see a replacement Krieger barrel on it.
The original is completely shot out and it's useless for humane use on live quarry.

I have made special mention of the barrel furniture to the extremely well reputed gunsmith who will carry out the work, as all the furniture will be placed on the new barrel and the open sights regulated for accuracy as well as the 'scope fittings.

I can only hope the takedown pin/lug issue goes away in this process.
Cheers, d

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: casper50]
      #312728 - 20/02/18 11:02 AM

Quote:

Mine is always tight.



"That's what she said".

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Re: Takedown Pin - MSch. M1903 [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #312738 - 20/02/18 06:10 PM

Wasn't true though.

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