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Ripp
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1853-Enfield-rifle-musket
      #311503 - 02/02/18 08:04 AM

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/arti...d-rifle-musket/

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: Ripp]
      #311511 - 02/02/18 11:32 AM

Yes - interesting, but the Prichert bullet mould for that rifle that my buddy has - an original, casts 560gr.

Sometimes the writing is not exactly accurate.

Both North and South sought, bought and used all 3 of the Enfield models, seems to me, including a bunch from Austria, Germany and wherever else they could buy rifles.

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: DarylS]
      #311546 - 03/02/18 05:26 AM

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Yes - interesting, but the Prichert bullet mould for that rifle that my buddy has - an original, casts 560gr.

Sometimes the writing is not exactly accurate.

Both North and South sought, bought and used all 3 of the Enfield models, seems to me, including a bunch from Austria, Germany and wherever else they could buy rifles.



One would think they would research this info a bit better??

Thankfully we have our very own "expert" named Daryl..

Thanks for the info....They are not my cup of tea, but like to read about them off and on..

Ripp

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: Ripp]
      #311564 - 03/02/18 01:14 PM

I have a good copy of the .55 Pritchett bullet that I am using in the paper cartridges I use in my Enfields. The cartridge is the key is it was a paper patched bullet you could fire far more shots without your rifle fouling, such as what happens with the minnie bullet. If you are really interested have a look at the british military forums, lots of us posting what we are doing with pritchett bullets .

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: Heelerau]
      #311569 - 03/02/18 03:21 PM

A lad at Hefley Creek Rendezvous placed in the top 5, for the Quigley shoot, one year, shooting that 560gr. Prichert with 90gr. 2F, seems to me, just over 3 1/4 drams.

The event was offhand, 800yards to the steel plate (bunch of saw blades welded together), making a target about 6' high and 3feet wide. His target, with the bullet falling at quite an angle was a mite smaller.

The range to the plate, horizontal range, that is, was about 700yards. The winner was shooting #457125 Lyman bullet out of an original Springfield 1884 model.

The other runners-up in the top 5 were 3 Sharps rifles, all chambered either .45/70 or .45 2.4".

About 20 contestants all together. It was nice to see Merlin in the top 5 with his 3 band Enfield. They fired 10 shots. Merlin did not need to wipe his bore during the shooting but the ctg. gun shooters had to.

Fun event.

Even the old model 1853 Enfield demands respect shooting against the modern 1880's "stuff".

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: DarylS]
      #311617 - 04/02/18 02:30 AM

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A lad at Hefley Creek Rendezvous placed in the top 5, for the Quigley shoot, one year, shooting that 560gr. Prichert with 90gr. 2F, seems to me, just over 3 1/4 drams.

The event was offhand, 800yards to the steel plate (bunch of saw blades welded together), making a target about 6' high and 3feet wide. His target, with the bullet falling at quite an angle was a mite smaller.

The range to the plate, horizontal range, that is, was about 700yards. The winner was shooting #457125 Lyman bullet out of an original Springfield 1884 model.

The other runners-up in the top 5 were 3 Sharps rifles, all chambered either .45/70 or .45 2.4".

About 20 contestants all together. It was nice to see Merlin in the top 5 with his 3 band Enfield. They fired 10 shots. Merlin did not need to wipe his bore during the shooting but the ctg. gun shooters had to.

Fun event.

Even the old model 1853 Enfield demands respect shooting against the modern 1880's "stuff".



800 yards off hand??? THAT is one hell of a shot..WOW...

Furthest I have ever shot off hand is 780.. KIDDING..

Seriously, that is remarkable..

Ripp

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: Ripp]
      #311630 - 04/02/18 05:02 AM

IIRC - Merlin got 3 or 4 hits out of 10 shots. Gotta remember, huge target - 3' (or 4) x 6'. lol
Seems to me, the winner got 5 hits.

Last time out at our Black Water range, I managed to miss the 1,000 meter buffalo 3 times, using my 1876 Winchester Centennial. Go figure. 3 misses in a row! LOL
It was a bit windy - maybe 15 mph, but it was only 1,090 yards.

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: DarylS]
      #311632 - 04/02/18 05:04 AM

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IIRC - Merlin got 3 or 4 hits out of 10 shots. Gotta remember, huge target - 3' (or 4) x 6'. lol
Seems to me, the winner got 5 hits.

Last time out at our Black Water range, I managed to miss the 1,000 meter buffalo 3 times, using my 1876 Winchester Centennial. Go figure. 3 misses in a row! LOL
It was a bit windy - maybe 15 mph, but it was only 1,090 yards.



1000 meters...gives you a lot of real estate to miss...

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Re: 1853-Enfield-rifle-musket [Re: Ripp]
      #311663 - 04/02/18 12:56 PM

Oh yeah - the guy who won that Quigley match with the Spring-board Trap-floor, was using the original ladder sight & black powder loading of course - 65.0gr. Swiss 1 1/2F, iirc, so he'd likely be getting the full 1,210fps muzzle velocity. Screamin'.

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