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tinker
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Rescue of a couple old rifles
      #311374 - 31/01/18 03:38 AM

I was handed a couple of rusty kit rifles the other day.
Both assembled.
.45 flint full stock, looks like early CVA Kentucky (original owner scribed '76 Dean-Built on the side plate), and a .50 caplock, an early CVA Mountain Rifle with 66 twist barrel and four screw patch box.

I've revived the caplock. Took a lot of barrel attention.
The flinter will take a lot more work.

Broke out the bear oil, my hands smell so damn good.
I want to get out in timber for black bear now...

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Edited by tinker (31/01/18 06:23 AM)

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: tinker]
      #311376 - 31/01/18 03:56 AM

Good luck!

That CVA might be a good shooter - some do very well.

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: DarylS]
      #311382 - 31/01/18 06:12 AM

The CVA caplock does indeed shoot very nicely.
I edited the original post to note the flinter appears to be a CVA kit too, from the mid-70's.
Soon as I get the patch/lube combination down we'll see just how well the .50 does, but so far it looks good.
Bore looked horrible, but after Kriol and brushing and 4o steel wool and Kroil and patches and pressure and sweat...
Relieved the edges at the muzzle as per your thumb and abrasive cloth method - loads nicely and rams smooth too.

I just got in from the shop where I gave the little .45 flint barrel the same treatment. It is starting to take shape as well. It has a similarly slow twist as the CVA too, which I find pleasing.



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Edited by tinker (31/01/18 06:26 AM)

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: tinker]
      #311388 - 31/01/18 09:16 AM

Scotch-Brite/oil or solvent on a jag is really good at slicking up bores that might show some neglect.

Good news about the .45.

With slippery oil patches, mine (42" GM Barrel) liked both 75gr. 3F and 85gr. 2F with .445" balls and 10 ounce denim(.022"). Both loads chronographed 2,240fps.

I like to develop loads for both 3F and 2F in my rifles as sometimes I run out of one of them.

With water based lubed for target shooting, dropping those loads by 10gr. worked as well. The vel. for those was in the 1,750fps range. There was a big change in vel. with the winter windshield washer fluid and a bit of Neetsfoot oil(about 1oz per 6 oz. WWWF). We add the oil just to slow the evapouration in the summer time. We call it WWWF+Oil.

It is used on precut patches, shaken then applied to them in a tin (Sucrets tins work), or a Track's snuff, fire-starting tool or glasses cases. Any water proof tin can be used. Speer bullet boxes in the smaller sizes also work - but are bright yellow.

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: DarylS]
      #311395 - 31/01/18 03:11 PM

Just finished the day's chores, got to the workshop to screw the flint rifle back together.
Touched a couple 50gr charges off for effect.

8:00pm, not bad.

Now for a martini...

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: tinker]
      #311396 - 31/01/18 03:28 PM

the work never stops, especially you had to rescue old guns from time to time

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: lancaster]
      #311636 - 04/02/18 05:31 AM

That little.45 flinter is really starting to grow on me...

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: tinker]
      #311640 - 04/02/18 06:15 AM

Got any pics???

Ripp

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: Ripp]
      #311656 - 04/02/18 10:13 AM

Ripp I can, once I figure out who's going to be the new net host for my photos.
Never fell for the photobucket BS, but I had been using Flickr.

Flickr changed their arrangements some time back and complicated matters to the point where I walked off.



Cheers
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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: tinker]
      #311660 - 04/02/18 12:20 PM

I wonder if someone were to get a 'third party posting' photobucket account, if EVERYONE would be able to see them, or only holders of new photobucket accounts.
Just curious.

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: tinker]
      #311670 - 04/02/18 02:14 PM

Quote:

Ripp I can, once I figure out who's going to be the new net host for my photos.
Never fell for the photobucket BS, but I had been using Flickr.

Flickr changed their arrangements some time back and complicated matters to the point where I walked off.



Cheers
Tinker



Per your request..info has been sent.
thx
Ripp Von Bully

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: Ripp]
      #311698 - 05/02/18 04:10 AM

Here are some, other guys use.

http://www.theraptorpit.com/Upload/

https://imgur.com/

"Also, don't use Imgur to host image libraries you link to from elsewhere, content for your website, advertising, avatars, or anything else that turns us into your content delivery network. If you do – and we will be the judge – or if you do anything illegal, in addition to any other legal rights we may have, we will ban you along with the site you're hotlinking from, delete all your images, report you to the authorities if necessary, and prevent you from viewing any images hosted on Imgur.com. We mean it."

The guy show posted the above quoted, said. "Pretty clear language, if you use them for 3rd Party Hosting, they can do exactly like Photobucket did.... only worse, they will delete your images as well.... :roll:"

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Re: Rescue of a couple old rifles [Re: DarylS]
      #311768 - 06/02/18 09:18 AM


http://picr.de

How to use picr.de

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