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Ripp
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In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century
      #310183 - 10/01/18 12:54 AM

https://www.americanrifleman.org/article...m_campaign=0118

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Ripp]
      #310194 - 10/01/18 08:55 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Thanks for sharing Ripp.

You can kinda see, how these people new what they wanted to achieve....... but that they didn't quite have it yet.
Some great pistols there but like any new thing, the evolution of this design, needed something from Out of the Blue/Left Field, to get things headed in the right direction.

Doh!
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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Homer]
      #310228 - 10/01/18 09:35 PM

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G'Day Fella's,

Thanks for sharing Ripp.

You can kinda see, how these people new what they wanted to achieve....... but that they didn't quite have it yet.
Some great pistols there but like any new thing, the evolution of this design, needed something from Out of the Blue/Left Field, to get things headed in the right direction.

Doh!
Homer




Much like John Thompson's insistence on the 'Blish device' as the inspiration for and foundation of what became the Thompson Submachine Gun. As time would show (M1 and M1A1 TSMG), the design could be (and was) simplified to eliminate the 'lock' and its machined channels entirely, along with the bolt's internals, felt oiler... .




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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #310339 - 12/01/18 07:25 PM

I'd love a Mauser M1896.

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: NitroX]
      #310376 - 13/01/18 07:37 AM

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I'd love a Mauser M1896.




its a licence problem?
can you buy a semi auto rifle in 7,63 Mauser?
just take a Mauser carbine were the the stock is fixed, there are some gunmaker making new mauser carbines and it would be easy for them to fix the stock permanently.

this firm https://www.fineguns.de/mauser-c96-karabiner make first class work , building new carbine's, the action use the M 1932 "Schnellfeuer" magazine





make nice Parabellum carbines too











https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/ffc909_7a4a3355cf8748eb8d5e3c06dceb329f.pdf

you can buy an original too but they can be expensive sometimes https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/orig...che_um/l/144715
this one here sold for 28000 euro and some value will go if you welding the stock to the action







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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: lancaster]
      #310379 - 13/01/18 08:19 AM

WOW--thx for posting..

Those are really cool...

Ripp

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Ripp]
      #310395 - 13/01/18 02:58 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Thanks for posting Lancaster.

Doh!
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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Ripp]
      #310407 - 13/01/18 05:24 PM

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WOW--thx for posting..

Those are really cool...

Ripp



Not wrong there mate, beautiful pieces aren't they!


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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: 93x64mm]
      #310418 - 14/01/18 03:37 AM

Yes - donuts for sure.

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Daryl_S]
      #310470 - 14/01/18 07:27 PM


A 'Double Hundred Dozen' box (2,400 doughnuts):



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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #310486 - 15/01/18 07:02 AM

just see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJwN0Vq7gM

was new to me that Roosevelt had a Luger carbine and take it to brasil on the Roosevelt–Rondon Scientific Expedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt%E2%80%93Rondon_Scientific_Expedition

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: lancaster]
      #310502 - 15/01/18 02:43 PM


Very interesting.

Found this on the 'net:
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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: lancaster]
      #310536 - 16/01/18 01:54 PM

Quote:

just see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJwN0Vq7gM

was new to me that Roosevelt had a Luger carbine and take it to brasil on the Roosevelt–Rondon Scientific Expedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt%E2%80%93Rondon_Scientific_Expedition




Wow..great find..had no idea either..thx again for sharing

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Ripp]
      #310541 - 17/01/18 12:31 AM

I have to say that as interesting as these early auto loaders are, I would not be confident doing into harms way with one.

A colt peace maker in 45LC would be much more comforting.

What was the first semi auto pistol you would actually carry in a possible gun fight?

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Rell]
      #310567 - 17/01/18 03:15 PM

Mauser C 96

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Re: In-the-beginning--semi-automatic-pistols-of-the-19th-century [Re: Rell]
      #310573 - 17/01/18 06:24 PM

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What was the first semi auto pistol you would actually carry in a possible gun fight?




Gee, does it have to be a semi automatic?



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