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nitro450exp
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Curtis Harvey
      #307980 - 19/11/17 02:40 PM

What's a pound of Curtis Harvey F black powder good for?
Can i use it for 12 bore 2 1/2" round ball in brass or paper or is it too fast.

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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: nitro450exp]
      #307982 - 19/11/17 04:32 PM

1f powder should be fine in a 12 gauge. I use 2f which is faster/finer than 1f for 12 gauge rb loads.

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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #307989 - 20/11/17 02:41 AM

More interesting would be to see the can. How old is it?

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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: Huvius]
      #307991 - 20/11/17 04:04 AM

My bro still has an old can - seems to me it is marked $1.99. That would go back to about 1962.

We used to shoot C&H in the 70's - at times, it was all we could find.

1F is perfect for shotshell, but the velocity will be lower than the same granulation in today's GOEX or anything else made today.

3 to 3 1/2 drams would be an easy load for a 2 1/2" case.

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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: nitro450exp]
      #308306 - 26/11/17 10:17 AM

Can looks like this. Except 1F.
Price is 2.32 on can.


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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: nitro450exp]
      #308313 - 26/11/17 11:47 AM

Shot that stuff for years, same can with a rubber pull-up stopper.

It is not as good (STRONG A powder), as the current GOEX, Wano, Elephant and certainly not the more expensive Swiss, Schutzen & Ennisford.

I would use another 1/4 to 1/2 dram to make up for it.

I also use 2F for 12's, etc. I have tried 1F - in modern GOEX and 1 1/2F in Swiss for the .50/95 and .45/60 BP loads, but it the 1F C&H does develop lower speeds, with identical loads. Best to make that up - 1/4 to 1/2 dram.

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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: nitro450exp]
      #308322 - 26/11/17 04:49 PM

Quote:

What's a pound of Curtis Harvey F black powder good for?





Should be just right for muskets.

I have a (repro.) 1861 Springfield that eats 1f.



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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #308352 - 27/11/17 08:27 AM

I picked up a can of that stuff over 45 years ago for a black powder cartridge rifle I had.
Rifle is gone, powder still on the shelf.
One of the local suppliers was B. McDaniel & co., they were located in SE Michigan, now long gone.
As I recall I paid about $3 for one pound of powder and at that time that was a high price,
Dupont went for much less.


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Re: Curtis Harvey [Re: jaguarxk120]
      #308677 - 05/12/17 09:49 AM

Just as it is in the can a collectors item. But fine in a large bore shotgun, I use Fg in both my 12 bore percussion double barrel shotgun and my .72 Bore rifle. I remember paying $5 a half pound ( I still have the tin FFFg) when I was a kid in the early 70's.

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