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Grenadier
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First deer for the .405 Grenadier
      #307692 - 13/11/17 08:09 AM

Deer is a Columbia Blacktail. The deer was shot quartering away. Here you can see the exit hole




The cartridge was loaded with a 300 grain .412" Woodleigh SN bullet producing 2,138 fps/3,045 ft lbs at the muzzle. The rifle is a Marlin 1895 re-barreled to .405 Grenadier - no other changes required.



The bullet was not recovered but you can see it expanded and performed as expected. This was the exit.



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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Grenadier]
      #307698 - 13/11/17 10:35 AM

Congratulations bud. Looks like it did the job. Please PM me as I has a Siamese Mauser I would like to use for this cartridge

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Grenadier
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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Joshua]
      #307714 - 14/11/17 12:11 AM

Sent

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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Grenadier]
      #307715 - 14/11/17 05:12 AM

Nice. Perfect performance.

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Grenadier
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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: DarylS]
      #307717 - 14/11/17 05:38 AM

Thanks, Daryl. If I didn't know that was the exit hole I would have guessed entry. The bullet must have mushroomed enough to splatter some of that rib bone back behind it. I thought that was interesting.

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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Grenadier]
      #307725 - 14/11/17 06:55 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Nice shootin Grenadier and a great looking rifle you have there.

Doh!
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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Grenadier]
      #307726 - 14/11/17 06:55 AM

Your entry / exit hole comments remind me of the wound imparted on a whitetail buck by a 300 grain Nosler PP from my .45-90 at a range of 110 yards.
Upon entering the cleaning barn, a man commented on the size of the exit hole and my guide told him that was the entry and rotated the suspended deer to show that the exiting bullet has taken out three ribs! Only two ribs were blasted going in.

That was Winchester Supreme .45-70 ammo rated at 1800 +fps and has unfortunately been discontinued.
Fortunately, I had purchased a good supply of the Nosler bullets for hand loading in .45-90 brass and at 2200 fps MV, it is devastating on thin skinned game; even taking a big goat-eating leopard in Africa.

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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: crshelton]
      #307734 - 14/11/17 08:15 AM

Good to see you had a win Grenadier!
Will certain fill your larder for Christmas.
Beautiful Dear species, are they generally smaller than the whitetail?

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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: 93x64mm]
      #307739 - 14/11/17 08:32 AM

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Beautiful Dear species, are they generally smaller than the whitetail?

The Columbia blacktail is a sub-species of the mule deer but is smaller. Mule deer can get up to about 250 lbs, the blacktail to about 200 lbs. The whitetail are about the same mass as a blacktail, also getting to about 200 lbs.

This was the largest blacktail I've ever shot and was surely near the upper size limit.

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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Grenadier]
      #307888 - 18/11/17 03:11 AM

"This was the largest blacktail I've ever shot and was surely near the upper size limit."

so you can be happy having the .405 with you, imagine it was a 30-30



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Re: First deer for the .405 Grenadier [Re: Grenadier]
      #307892 - 18/11/17 04:54 AM

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Thanks, Daryl. If I didn't know that was the exit hole I would have guessed entry. The bullet must have mushroomed enough to splatter some of that rib bone back behind it. I thought that was interesting.



Yes indeed, sometimes there is force backwards from an entry. Perhaps this is something similar to a moose I shot a few years back with the little .458. The 350gr. Hornady RN (2,296fps) entered just above his left eyeball, traveled down just about the centre of the brain, exiting the head in the spinal cord of 1st, second and third vertebrae, then exited the neck. This was about a 95 yard shot.

On the ground in front of the moose, was an 8" long 3/4" diameter plug of fatty looking tissue, with blood specs all around it. I picked it up by one end and said "Taylor, look at this!" It (the noodle) appeared to be brain matter that squeezed back out the entrance hole, and gelled as it hit the cool late autumn air.

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