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DarylS
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Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410
      #305070 - 10/09/17 06:56 AM

Good for Grouse too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8SUQAFSJdc

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: DarylS]
      #305078 - 10/09/17 12:20 PM

Nice! Looks like a barrel of fun! Ejectors would be an improvement though.

The 20 gauge is a ripper as well. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3HTuDgjSs

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: DarylS]
      #305100 - 10/09/17 07:31 PM

Quote:

Good for Grouse too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8SUQAFSJdc



Hells Bells 1.3 Gb file!

The bloke really waffles and rambles on. And really should learn something about the subject he is attempting to talk on. Makes me thankfull we have such great and knowledgeable members here on NE. In comparison.

Hate that aweful pistol grip on the Howdah. Give me the original vintage old fashioned stock anyday.

But I do like the option of a .45 Colt or a .410 Shotgun chambering. Really useful.

Is the .45 Colt the same as the .45 Long Colt?

I really want a vintage one of these Howdahs in .577 brass case chamberinbg. One was up for auction not that long ago, a few years. Was tempted to go to the auction, but did not even have a handgun licence at the time. Plus how to get permission for one, either need toi get it as a collector and then can't shoot it, except of once or twice a year, and can't store ammo for it, OR some sort of competition shooting. BGRC claims to have some sort of Howdah competition. I am guessing if one already has a licence and category for centrefire ammo handguns, then if one is already shooting the category, a few shoots could be tacted on, as long as the minimum four or six shoots are done per year.

BUT what what them being .45 or .577? Well above the .38 maximum for most competitions? Anyone know? Usually the only sports allowed are metal silhouette type competitions? Maybe competitions would need to be of that nature?

Would be cool, a proper BG Howdah shoot should be FAST and have POP UP targets. IMO. To emulate a tiger leaping on the back of your elephant during a driven hunt. Per a knockdown silhouette target which pops up and needs to be knocked down within a quick time period.

I'd love one of each:
- an original .577 brass case chambered Howdah;
- one of these .45/.410 Pedersolis without that crap stock; &
- one of the percussion ML BL Howdahs - just for fun.

Thanks for posting, even if downloading the file probably cost me $20!!! (used up my quota already for the month )

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: NitroX]
      #305101 - 10/09/17 07:34 PM

The 20 gauge percussion youtube videoi is 1.6 Gb !!! Ouch.

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: NitroX]
      #305112 - 10/09/17 11:03 PM

Yeah, old mate tended to waffle on a little bit, he lost my interest after a couple of minutes..

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: Bidgee]
      #305114 - 10/09/17 11:38 PM

Its pain staking to watch that fellow do an entire video.

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: Wayne59]
      #305135 - 11/09/17 08:49 AM

John - Join the club! I too have been looking for a .577 (Snider!) Howdah for several years, unfortunately not paying the price asked at the time.

In the UK prices have doubled last year, I bid £5000+ for one and lost it by £2K - a very nice one fetched around £12000 with commission from Holt's last year! so now out of my range

I have a "baby" of .500 x 1 1/2" ctg. and several large percussion DB pistols sold as "Howdahs" but in reality "Horse" or "Coach" pistols (all here somewhere)

Only the percussion pistols legal to shoot here but I must get round to one sooner rather than later

I hope you realise your dreams

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Re: Here's a New One - Howdah .45/.410 [Re: TH44]
      #305138 - 11/09/17 09:12 AM

Yes - he does ramble & you are right, John - he should have researched more.

He is a hell of a good shot, can't take that from him. You should watch the video where he shot out to 200yards (maybe it was 160?) with smoothbore shotgun slugs.

The target pistol design o fthe grip is good too shoot- on paper or targets. I myself agree, much preferring the 20 SXS stock design.

I thought the capability to shoot .410 shotgun shells as well as .45 Colt was a good move.

The .45 Colt is the same as the .45 Long Colt. There never was a .45 Short Colt, so the LONG designation some use is incorrect.

There was a shorter .45 issue ctg. the .45 S&W Schofield, which was shorter than the .45 Colt Ctg. by almost 2/10". This actually caused problems when fort Armories issued .45 Colt ammo,(meant for the 1873 Colt SA revolver) to troops armed with the double actioned S&W Schofield.
The .45 S&W (Schofield) was 1.100" long, while the .45 Colt(s) was 1.29" long.

You can easily shoot the short S&W in the .45 Colt, but not the reverse with proper chambering.

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