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      #301098 - 01/06/17 11:46 AM

anyone feed their dogs sardines for joints instead of pills? i've been feeding them some but finding some safe to eat is kinda perplexing. i've found on occasion harvested in canada which i'm comfortable with. others come from poland which i thought was landlocked and near the russians. and starkist says to be kosher but from thailand the land of tiger shrimp. the most minimal ingredients seems sea salt

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Re: sardines [Re: ducmarc]
      #331982 - 07/09/19 07:30 AM

I don’t feed sardines but I feed mackerel when I’m pushing a dog hard.

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Re: sardines [Re: Johnny_reb]
      #331998 - 07/09/19 10:58 AM

TKS guys, I've never heard of feeding a hard working dog sardines or herring, macherel or any other fish.
I know that many sled dogs in Alaska and Canada usually eat fish and mostly char - very high in fat and Omega3 (Inuit sled dogs).

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Re: sardines [Re: ducmarc]
      #332013 - 07/09/19 06:50 PM

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anyone feed their dogs sardines for joints instead of pills? i've been feeding them some but finding some safe to eat is kinda perplexing. i've found on occasion harvested in canada which i'm comfortable with. others come from poland which i thought was landlocked and near the russians. and starkist says to be kosher but from thailand the land of tiger shrimp. the most minimal ingredients seems sea salt




Poland has a sea coast on its Northern border on the Baltic Sea.

Historically Poland was land locked with Prussia forming its Northern border. Today's Polish sea coast on the Baltic Sea was Prussian coasts.

After WW1 Poland was 'given' a small finger of land, the "Danzig Corridor" to the Baltic Sea, which separated German East Prussia from Eastern Germany proper. This was a sore point with Germany and one of the reasons for the invasion of Poland in 1939.

Off topic, but history and answering your question.

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As for fish topic, why are some sardines not suitable? The bones are a problem for dogs? Or the 'dressing' which accompanies the sardines?

Good topic. My old pooch might need some rich fishy items added to his diet. Getting thinner and weaker in the rear end/hips.

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Re: sardines [Re: NitroX]
      #332019 - 07/09/19 07:22 PM

Hoping this is still on topic?

Do any Aussies feed their dogs fish at all? If so what? ie what is affordable? And not too bony?

Fish tends to be expensive on this continental island surrounded by sea .... no idea why, when in theory the Southern Ocean and other seas should make fish and seafood here cheaper than anywhere else. Perhaps we have too much farmed seafoods, rather than trawler wild seas caught? The Japs, Koreans, Taiwanese, etc come down here with massive trawlers to fish huge quantities of fish, but us Aussies stupidly pay through the nose high prices ...

My Blitzen does enjoy salmon in his diet. But only when I stupidly leave it go off in the fridge, cooked or uncooked ... I think Salmon would be excellent for dogs.

Usually I would think fish too good for a dog, and much better in the human diet.

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Re: sardines [Re: NitroX]
      #332704 - 25/09/19 10:48 AM

been feeding for awhile now since i posed the question. they are young butdoesen't seem to hurt.my friend feeds his old shepherds and says they helping with theyre hips.only use the ones packed in saltwater.feed them beef liver too. yuk

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Re: sardines [Re: ducmarc]
      #332706 - 25/09/19 11:19 AM

I would think sardines in olive oil would be good for them.

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Re: sardines [Re: DarylS]
      #332730 - 26/09/19 06:32 AM

We don't, or at least I don't, think much of fish in my dogs' diets.
Probably because here in CO there isn't any low cost source for fish that I'm aware of other than catching carp or something similar myself.
Surely would be a good thing for them I would think and I should probably add a bit in.
They sure go nuts for cooked trout skin, that's for sure!
For a hunting dog, I'm not sure I would want too much fish or fish oil in their diet during hunting season as it thins the blood and cuts bleed more than normal - same in humans.

I had my dogs into the vet the other day. They are at their slimmest this time of year and my vet told me to add cooked pasta into their diet if I wanted them a bit heavier.
Once the cool weather is here they will fill out again naturally but maybe I'll do that just to see what happens.
One surgeon I know here puts her malnourished patients on an ice cream diet - meaning lots of ice cream - before performing surgery. Helps with wound healing and pain management apparently.

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Re: sardines [Re: Huvius]
      #332783 - 28/09/19 10:46 AM

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..........I had my dogs into the vet the other day. They are at their slimmest this time of year and my vet told me to add cooked pasta into their diet if I wanted them a bit heavier. Once the cool weather is .......



Ben, have to laugh, if my Labs get pasta there follows a MAJOR gas attack.
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Re: sardines [Re: 3DogMike]
      #332785 - 28/09/19 12:44 PM

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Ben, have to laugh, if my Labs get pasta there follows a MAJOR gas attack.





Well, my wife stays up quite late with them in the sun room most nights so may serve two purposes!! LOL!!

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Re: sardines [Re: Huvius]
      #332786 - 28/09/19 01:34 PM

LOL - been married 44 years, I understand.

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Re: sardines [Re: DarylS]
      #341498 - 30/05/20 08:55 PM

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I would think sardines in olive oil would be good for them.




Been asking for remedies for my GSP Blitzen for his old age weakness in his back and rear hips. One thing suggested was sardines in olive oil.

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Re: sardines [Re: NitroX]
      #350137 - 08/02/21 03:35 AM

a new puppy and the breeder suggested giving sardines occasionally. I went an bought a couple of kgs frozen whole sardines for $11 a kg. Probably can get them cheaper at a different seafood wholesaler.

usual over did it the first feeding. instead of slowly slowly catchee monkey ....

Blitzen the 13 year old doddery fellow sniffed his bowl and indicated I could eat that crap myself.

Donder the 13 week old (now) sniffed it, took out a sardine piece, tried to eat it, spat it out, threw it in the air. Picked it up again and repeat. Like a cat playing with mouse.

Hardly touched his bowl. When I through it all and removed all the sardines, he ate the rest of bowl.

Attempt 2. COOOKED the sardines by frying in olive. Took ONE sardine cut up, and mashed it up as much as possible. Mixed it up in each bowl.

Donder certainly ate his.

Blitzen may have or not? Some days he hardly eats and is very fussy.

^^^

I did all the above with chicken livers.

Same mistake. Too much.

Funny watching Donder again play with his food like a cat.

Didn't separate his livers. Over two meals, he ended up eating everything but left all the livers.

The did eat the chicken hearts OK however.

So tried cooking the livers. They eat the livers fine when cooked/fried.

I think they will eventually eat them OK uncooked.

^^^

I do hope the sardines help Blitzen. Sometimes now when he falls over I need to lift him back up onto his feet. He can't get up himself.

The puppy is a nuisance and sometimes knocks the big kind fellow over as well.

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Re: sardines [Re: NitroX]
      #352816 - 29/04/21 03:19 AM

The fellows now wolf down COOKED chicken livers and hearts. I have to limit them as one of then vomited it back up later.

Too rich and too much I think.

They will eat COOKED sardines now as well. I give only very occasionally.

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Re: sardines [Re: NitroX]
      #352837 - 29/04/21 09:37 AM

I love chicken hearts and gizzards. The livers were OK, but not my favourite. The gizzards and hearts are.
I used to buy them and cook them up for suppers when the kids were young. Boiled, of course - sprinkled with salt - YUMMY!
Same with turkey gizzards and hearts.
Sardines are great too, especially the jalapeno and tomato sauce sardines. Billionaire sardines are the best of the olive oil sardines.
No dogs any more - so I get it all!

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