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Bidgee
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Holland and Holland .22 single shot
#297908 - 27/03/17 11:16 AM

This would be a step up from my Lithgow Slazenger.22 single shot!

https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=99203

Calibre/Item: 22LR
Make: Holland & Holland
Action: Break Single Shot
Scope: Sights
Serial No: 18784
Condition: Good
Price: $2700
Advertised: 26/03/2017
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Comment: Made in late 1800´s. Scroll Engraving, highly accurate, with multiple iron sight setting for precision shooting. Comes with antique box. Genuine collectors firearm. Call for further information. $2700 ono
Transfering dealer: Of your choosing

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Claydog
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Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: Bidgee]
#297916 - 27/03/17 12:02 PM

Looks a bit like my old single 22

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93x64mm
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Loc: Nth QLD Australia

Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: Claydog]
#297920 - 27/03/17 12:20 PM

Nifty little piece

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Marrakai
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Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: 93x64mm]
#297957 - 28/03/17 01:18 AM

Regardless of the name on the rib, these little rifles (probably all made in Belgium) are great fun to shoot.
The one in my gunsafe was 'made' (retailed!) by W.P.Jones.
Almost certainly regulated for the original black powder .22 Long, it shoots modern sub-sonic target ammo to the sights.

Not sure how quickly the advertised H&H example will sell at that price though....

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DarylS
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Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: Marrakai]
#297967 - 28/03/17 04:17 AM

Might be the .22 short, rather than the long ctg.?

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Marrakai
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Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: DarylS]
#297998 - 28/03/17 10:34 AM

Daryl:
Quite so: the short was the original .22 rimfire cartridge, however I suspect that for the last couple of decades of the 1800s most break-open single-shots were chambered long to accept both the short and the long cartridge. Later repeaters were commonly chambered for the .22 Short specifically, probably for greater mag capacity in the popular tube magazines at the time.

Unfortunately the .22 Short is no longer the cheap practice round it once was!

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NitroX
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Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: Marrakai]
#298116 - 29/03/17 08:00 PM

Sold already.

Pity the photos on the UG's webpage are so bad.

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DarylS
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Re: Holland and Holland .22 single shot [Re: Marrakai]
#298131 - 30/03/17 08:07 AM

Marrakai - that is interesting, I did not know the year that the long ctg. was brought out.

Here in NA, .22 short specific rifles had 24" rates of twist that ctg's. short 29gr. bullet. The .22 Long today, having the same 29gr. bullet loaded to the same speed as the short, also should have the 24" twist.

The .22 LR though, with the longer, heavier 40gr. bullet necessitated a 16" rate of twist. Thus, .22 short or .22 longs do not shoot as well as .22 LR's, when fired in a short, long, long rifle marked rifle, as that rifle will have a standard 16" twist.

By the same token, a .22 short specific rifle, if re-chambered to shoot long rifle ctgs. will not shoot accurately as the rate of twist is too slow for the longer bullet.
It may, however, shoot some of the newer hyper velocity .22 LR's with lighter bullets at elevated speeds.

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