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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Ash]
      #287392 - 05/09/16 01:23 AM

I would estimate/guess 1850's perhaps 1860's.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Daryl_S]
      #292351 - 20/12/16 07:52 PM

nice wall hanger for your trophy room





















http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/engelsk-tigerboesse/i4512029/#

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #294453 - 30/01/17 01:17 AM

16 ga by Störmer in Herzberg http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/v-a-e-stoermer-perkussionsgevaer-kal-16/i4502982/#
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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #294477 - 30/01/17 10:35 AM

That is VERY nice, excellent engraving and gold lining

Thanks for posting such lovely guns

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: TH44]
      #296345 - 05/03/17 10:08 PM

English 8 Bore/gauge Muzzel Loader
a very interesting light 8 bore game/pigeon gun by Dyball. 34" twist barrel , 13 3/4 LOP .Very well made with twin loops and strengthened fore-end ,qualty engraving , starburst at breech, but weighing only 6 3/4 lb .Very good working order with good bore - £595
Read more at http://www.gunstar.co.uk/english-8-bore-gauge-muzzel-loader/Shotguns/888236#48sirej0BrSUBM4g.99















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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #296359 - 06/03/17 05:51 AM

Nice!

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #296381 - 06/03/17 12:46 PM

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nice wall hanger for your trophy room





















http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/engelsk-tigerboesse/i4512029/#




THAT thing is a HORRIBLE piece of Indian home made SHITE - in my humble opinion.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Daryl_S]
      #296388 - 06/03/17 02:26 PM

Go easy there Daryl! That was someone's pride and joy back in the day. They went to a lot of work painting those tiger hunting scenes on the stock. But it is pretty ugly...

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #302523 - 30/06/17 05:59 AM

http://www.aiolfi.com/vente/vente-milita...ysteme-dewalle/












"shotgun system Dewalle: double gun, 18 gauge, left "Dewalle Frères", right "patented in Liège". Length of the barrel: 78 cm, Total length of the weapon: 118 cm. It is a percussion weapon using the principle of superimposed charges (two charges per gun). Each barrel comprises two pistons, each plate comprising two hammers. These are actuated by a single double-acting trigger which first actuates the anterior hammer and then, with a second pressure, the posterior hammer. Dewalle was a gunmaker in Liège, worked around 1840 until 1862. The proof marks were made before 1853. The serial number (140) is very low. "

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #302574 - 01/07/17 02:39 AM

Now that is cool!
I suppose you could have the hammers on the same sear and it simply drops whichever hammer is at full cock.
Does this patent really reset the sear to the rear hammer somehow?

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Huvius]
      #302591 - 01/07/17 01:20 PM

Wow! Now that is different. No one else is likely to have one of those in the gun cabinet.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Huvius]
      #302594 - 01/07/17 02:33 PM

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Now that is cool!
I suppose you could have the hammers on the same sear and it simply drops whichever hammer is at full cock.
Does this patent really reset the sear to the rear hammer somehow?




it would be interesting to see the lock from the inside

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #302613 - 02/07/17 01:04 AM

Can someone explain how this gun works? Why the double hammers?

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: NitroX]
      #302617 - 02/07/17 01:30 AM

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Can someone explain how this gun works? Why the double hammers?




The double hammers on each side allow for two loads per barrel.
The first load is dropped and the patched ball seated, then another load is dropped over that ball and another ball seated.
Front hammers capped and fired first of course.
I imagine that a very precise load and ball OAL is critical as to not get in the way of the flash hole for the front charge.
I've seen this arrangement before on another rifle - forgot where.
The rear load must get quite compressed from firing the front load!

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Huvius]
      #302650 - 03/07/17 01:51 AM

gun is described as "Fusil" what would be a shotgun in french
I think it was mandatory to load a felt wad between the two loads to make it gastight and safe.

nice double rifle by "Fent in Steyr" having the crown of a baron it gives a good impression how expensive this double was
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/perkus...lets/i4710044/#



























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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #303006 - 13/07/17 04:08 AM

http://www.ebuy.dk/astort.asp?emneid=9269&fid=8425




















side by side percussion hunting rifle.
Description:
This gun is manufactured by the small company H. Sturm in Suhl, Germany. The weapon is with beautifully engraved locks with hammers in the form of dolphins. The company name is inlaid with gold on the locks "Henr Sturm in Suhl". The company merges later with Spangenberg & Sauer. This rifle is a gift from Frederik VI, King of Denmark to Johan Wilhelm Cornelius Krieger 1788-1857 - who will be knighted on October 6th, 1829, where he receives this gun as a gift. A silver sign with the inscription "Minde Sorgenfri on 6 October 1829" has been inserted. "
The gun is richly decorated with silver fittings and engravings. Length 119 cm (barrels 79 cm)

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #303008 - 13/07/17 05:33 AM

That is a most interesting gun! Not sure what the extra lever is for in front of the cocks, however, might be a holder for the cap or tube or pill of detonating powder which might be the ignition type of this gun - very early percussion weapon due to the dates.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Daryl_S]
      #303027 - 14/07/17 03:49 AM

yes, very valuable double rifle but thats the kind of present you get by a king

the extra lever hold the cap in place

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #303034 - 14/07/17 06:51 AM

If normal caps, they fit snuggly and need no help to stay on the nipple, which is why I suggested a tube or pill of detonating compound.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Daryl_S]
      #303092 - 16/07/17 02:55 PM

"Hartmann in Hamburg"
12 gauge double gun, only 64 cm long barrels
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6524474













left hammer sometimes replaced but otherwise nice double gun

unknown maker but good double gun
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/perkussions-jagtgevaer-1800-tallet/i4725015/#





















Cogswell & Harrison double gun, SN 5306
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/cogswe...-slu/i4708271/#


















J.H. Schneiders Söhne / Zella St. Blasi hunting rifle
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/j-h-schneiders-soehne-perkussionsgevaer-1800-tallet/i4710033/#
























G.Gerling in Kiel double gun
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/g-gerling-kiel-perkussions-jagtgevaer-1800-tallet/i4723936/#





























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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Daryl_S]
      #305480 - 18/09/17 03:33 AM

side by side combination gun C. Svendsen in Kopenhagen, ca. 14 mm caliber

http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/slaglaasgevaer-svendsen/i4779784/#













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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #305506 - 18/09/17 06:18 PM

A lotto win, could do some damage here !!

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Heelerau]
      #307091 - 31/10/17 11:26 PM

very nice 12 ga rifle by Devisme in Paris
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6660439#img














14 mm double rifle J. SPRINGER VORM NOWOTNY IN WIEN

http://www.naturabuy.fr/excveptionel-exp...em-3604732.html



























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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #307196 - 03/11/17 10:00 PM

Wow....such beauty.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: sharps4590]
      #307205 - 04/11/17 04:12 AM

Some beautiful guns, Lancaster - thank you for all the work you do in digging these up, along with the other thread on "Save for Me".

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