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coll416
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Re: 9.3x62 Hornady bullet failure [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #297840 - 26/03/17 04:14 PM

W,
I am totally a Woodleigh fan, my first choice in .270W, 338W, 9.3x62 & .416. This is based upon their terminal performance. These bullets kill humanely. The thunk noise of a Woodleigh striking is much more audible than some others! The kill because they expand rapidly but hold together to keep penetrating. The mushrooms are big & wide!

I choose long, sleek bullets for the rifle range, where group size counts. I can't shoot small groups in the bush particularly when I am stretched & shooting offhand. I choose hunting bullets for hunting!

I had a .416 410gn Woodleigh pill fail to penetrate enough on a quartering shot to kill a solid scrub bull quickly. The bull did not move more than five metres & required a second shot....I felt that my shot was the primary cause here, I thought my big .416 would knock him off his feet. On the same trip I shot a similar bull with a Woodleigh 410gn FMJ breaking both scapula, like my first bull he required another shot. Neither animals were going anywhere, one bullet expanded too much the other too little, bugger!

Were these bullet failures? No. Like you W I have recovered lots of bullets which has helped me understand there is no perfect!! There are a number of challenges when hunting, terminal performance just one variable. My shooting skill has much more potential to cause a failure!

I strongly agree with some of the comments above, don't follow the market people blindly, they help create unreal expectations. Sometimes the most expensive is not the best!

Do some real analysis, & expect the unexpected!

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Re: 9.3x62 Hornady bullet failure [Re: coll416]
      #297842 - 26/03/17 04:39 PM

I only took delivery of 2 boxes of Woodleigh .338 Weldcore`s yesterday. I like their wares and also use the hydros in a couple of Norma calibres.

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Re: 9.3x62 Hornady bullet failure [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #297843 - 26/03/17 05:13 PM

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Coll416, interesting what you say about both the Woodleigh and the Barnes bullets. I have found that Woodleigh's work perfectly even with heavy bone,at least on the deer, Sambar and Fallow in particular. I have always found that the bullets will smash through bone, damage internals badly with out much meat damage and leave a good exit wound, at least with the 338 WM in 250 grain. Any Barnes X-Bullets that I have seen especially at close range sail straight through and do very little damage of anything, leaving the animal very much alive and running around. Several blokes in our club have had a long and perfect record on Sambar with Woodleigh bullets, have switched to Barnes as a tryout and gone back to the Wooodleigh's because the Barnes bullets just pencil through with little organ damage and a long follow up.

Waidmannsheil.



Now that is very interesting. I have a friend who will use nothing but Barnes TSX in 180gr. from his .300 Win. Mag. for moose. he doesn't hunt elk, but if he did, it would be with the 180gr. TSX.
I hope to try out the 165's or 168's, both TSX this fall on whitetails, Elk and maybe a moose- but much rather have a whitetail and/or an elk.

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Rule303
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Re: 9.3x62 Hornady bullet failure [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #297891 - 27/03/17 09:00 AM

I have found that different calibres in Woodleigh perform differently. That is the 358 cal seem to be harder than what the recommended velocities allow. The 3 Sambar I have taken with my 35 Sambar were taken at ranges, 180mts, 70 mts and 20 mts. The 70 mts shot was heart lung the 180mts broke both shoulders. The 20 mts broke 3 ribs and off side shoulder and impact velocity was over 200fps above max recommended by Woodleigh. All bullets retained between 86% and 94% of original weight.

Yet other cals a hit this far above max recommended would have a bullet coming apart. Re the Core Locks. I have had some spectacular results and what I call failures. Good sized pigs at 150mts with complete pass through, others smaller pigs drop right there at these ranges. 2 Tahr ran 50 and 60 meters, thankfully not over a cliff. Both heart shot but the bullet penciled straight through, no sign of opening. Tahr were about 40mts and 60mts. Yet a Chamois hit in the heart - shot from below- dropped right there and a massive exit wound. Shot from about 100mts. All were 130 grain 270 cal Core loks. This stems back from the mid nineties till 2007. No problem with them before then and now I dont use them. Still do in the 358 round nose in my 356 and work well.

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Re: 9.3x62 Hornady bullet failure [Re: Rule303]
      #297892 - 27/03/17 09:31 AM

The .356 with 250gr. Hornady RN worked splendidly for deep penetration on our moose. My brother used it for years, guiding, having to kill about 3 to 4 wounded moose a year with it - always splendid work - whether broadside or from the hind leg forward on a rapidly departing moose - always to break the far leg and down.

46.0gr.H335 was my load developed for him, CCI250 primer, WW Super brass. I flattened the noses of the bullets to make them safe in the magazine. Also, the bullets were all heavily crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp die, necessary to hold them tightly, due to magazine restrictions for length. Full 1005 loading with very slight compression. 2,146fps MV.

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