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Phil_in_the_UK
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The .375H&H and the Professional Hunter
      #2892 - 21/05/03 04:28 AM

What does a professional hunter really think when his city client turns up with a .375H&H on a dangerous game hunt, is it enough gun, or is it lacking and how often do you need those backup shots after the .375H&H has done its work?

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Re: The .375H&H and the Professional Hunter [Re: Phil_in_the_UK]
      #2894 - 21/05/03 04:48 AM

i`m no pro hunter but there is no reason why a pro hunter would worry about his client having a 375 when something bigger may make him (client) shoot worse.

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Re: The .375H&H and the Professional Hunter [Re: gryphon]
      #2896 - 21/05/03 06:07 AM

I have no problem whatsoever with seeing my clients pitch up with a .375 H&H. I always advise them to bring the largest calibre they can shoot confidently and competently and most of them use the good old .375 H&H. After all this calibre must have killed more African game than all the others put together.

However, (IMO) it's not enough gun for a PH to use in a dangerous game area............... let alone on a dangerous game hunt. I don't even regard a .416 as sufficient calibre for a PH who operates in a (thick skinned) dangerous game area.

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Re: The .375H&H and the Professional Hunter [Re: Phil_in_the_UK]
      #2898 - 21/05/03 07:18 PM

Phil

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If you are heading off to Africa ask your PH but I doubt any PH would say no to a .375. Some say they prefer a .400 and up for elephant and buffalo. But a client shooting a .375 well is much better than one shooting a 458 badly.

I was just a client but I used a .375 for my one and only buff and had no doubts at all a .375 could do it with 300 gr or heavier Woodleigh bullets. I shot the buff with a SP broadside and it was still standing but not well. As it was getting dark, about 30 seconds later I shot it again through both shoulders with a FMJ. It ran about 40 metres and became very wobbly and fell over. Still took several more minutes to die but I think it would be the same with almost all big bores.

Harry Manners, a professional ivory hunter in Mozambiique used one or two .375s for all his ivory hunting, after being dis-satisfied with a 10.75x68. Read "Kambaku" - a great book and one of my favourites.

And as for a charge, a 300gr .375 FMJ will out penetrate may other heavier projectiles and all it takes is one bullet to the brain. Same for the heavier calibres.

Can I ask why the question - planning a safari soon or in the future?


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Re: The .375H&H and the Professional Hunter [Re: Phil_in_the_UK]
      #2916 - 22/05/03 04:56 AM

Phil,

I'm not a PH but I have recently booked a plainsgame hunt and the gun I will use will be my .375Ultra. In the future, I will use it on Buff. I'm booked for next April with our own Shakari, Steve Robinson, and he approved of the caliber. I might add that Steve is incredibly helpful and responsive on all matters regarding my hunt. I'm really excited, eh Steve? The Ultra is my gun of choice for the Brown bear here in Alaska also.

Joe

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