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TexasJohn
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Sedgley Sporters From 1930s
      #285488 - 20/07/16 09:49 AM

I am now the custodian and caretaker of two really nice Sedgley Sporters from the 1930s. Both are in superb condition with the Krag looking like it came off the bench in Philly just this week. The 1903 Springfield Sporter is in .22 Hornet and the Krag Sporter is a .25-35. The catalog pages are from Sedgley's 1932 Catalog.















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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #285493 - 20/07/16 11:48 AM

Lovely.
When my brother passed away, I gave his Sedgley Springfield 30'06 to a mutual friend who has since taken two Elk with it - open sights. He loves it.
A real hunter's rifle.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: Huvius]
      #285542 - 22/07/16 03:58 AM

excellent safe queens, never got a scratch it seems

dont know if its a good idea to takes them out into the field when they survived the last decades in such a good state

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: lancaster]
      #285655 - 26/07/16 03:18 AM

Excellent, that Hornet just begs to be taken squirrel hunting and hopefully there is a whitetail in that 25-35's future.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: 458Win]
      #285661 - 26/07/16 06:52 AM

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Excellent, that Hornet just begs to be taken squirrel hunting and hopefully there is a whitetail in that 25-35's future.




Well said!

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: DarylS]
      #285675 - 26/07/16 08:53 PM

Outstanding

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: tophet1]
      #285749 - 27/07/16 10:06 PM

Wow, a couple of special rifles there!

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: Bidgee]
      #286228 - 08/08/16 08:26 PM

Wow, you don't see that every day, and not in such condition

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: CarlsenHighway]
      #286230 - 08/08/16 08:49 PM

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=451744#Post451744

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: xausa]
      #286231 - 08/08/16 10:18 PM

Wow. I would have loved to have been there...........

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #286587 - 18/08/16 09:35 PM

I remember seeing a Sedgley for sale here in Aus, wasnt a fancy one but i liked it. Shoulda bought it!

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: Ash]
      #296215 - 04/03/17 09:16 AM

Have you worked up a load for the 25-35?

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: Will_el_Oso]
      #296220 - 04/03/17 09:57 AM

As a matter of fact, I did. I found a pristine late 30's Unertl scope for it and it looks correct now. Was able to leave the receiver sight on as well.....just had to take the eye piece off and stow it in a small hole under the butt plate. I loaded 117 grain Hornady round nose bullets and they feed smooth as glass. Settled on a load of 25.0 grains of IMR 4895. I had to seat the bullets just lower than the crimp groove because the throat is just a tad too short to seat in the crimp groove. I failed to take a picture of my last target at 100 yards, but a modern factory rifle would have been proud to do as well. I will try to take a Whitetail next season with it, I doubt it has ever been on a hunt.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #296254 - 04/03/17 04:21 PM

Beautiful rifles in great calibers. The Krag is really lovely!

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: mckinney]
      #296258 - 04/03/17 05:18 PM

Those are both spectacular rifles and both beg to be hunted. I had a well worn Sedgley for a bit. Wish I hadn't sold it.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: mart]
      #296385 - 06/03/17 01:44 PM

Thanks for the 25-35 load data. I have one coming in on a 1903 Springfield action. Thought it was an interesting combination. Not sure why they offered a 1903 Springfield in the 25-35 caliber? Love the Sedgley rifles they fit me very well.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: Will_el_Oso]
      #296429 - 07/03/17 10:36 AM

Will,
I see that the .25-35 was offered by Sedgley in the 1903; however, I have never seen one for sale. Sedgley modified the magazine considerably for the rimmed Hornet round and I am very curious as to what mods he may have made to ensure the rimmed .25-35 would feed reliably and not lock rims. I am thinking a piece of metal to convert the magazine into a "slant" configuration. Please post some pictures of your rifle and the magazine.

I would love to own it. You are a lucky fellow.

John

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #303082 - 16/07/17 03:42 AM

Here are some pictures to replace the ones that PhotoBucket is holding for ransom. Please do not pay them anything!









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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #347232 - 27/11/20 04:50 PM

That 25-35 Krag is a honey!

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: tinker]
      #347247 - 28/11/20 04:32 AM

Agreed - is it ever!

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: DarylS]
      #347250 - 28/11/20 05:19 AM

Gentlemen;
I ran across this posting the other day which I had never seen before. Since it is about the Krag, I thought it might be good to share it here. The Krag action was rated for 40,000 psi while the '95 Winchester lever gun was rated at 45,000 psi. I considered this carefully when I was loading for another Krag that is chambered in 35 WCF, and I adjusted my loads carefully for the krag. Had I know about this experiment, I might have just used the loads for the 95 Wichester.

John

I ran across this posting of an experiment conducted by Michael Petrov - Best known for his writings in Precision Shooting and his two volumes of "Custom Gun Makers of the 20th Century". I thought that it might make you feel a little better about standing behind your old Krag sporter.

There seems to be a lot of customized Krags on the market at this time, many not bad and in the $300-400 range.

I’ve seen a lot written about the Krag and many times the one locking lug is always mentioned as the “Weak” link in the Krag. This is to address the design of the Krag not the strength - for a better understanding of the rifle.

Please understand that I do not advocate loading the Krag action up beyond the designed pressure limits. Stick with published loads found in any loading manual.

A few years ago after hearing one warning after another I decided to test a Krag action, to destruction.
I built a box out of wood 2x12’s with a steel top, the inside of the box was painted. I set it up so I could fire it remotely, a long string. Word traveled fast and there were a half-dozen folks on hand for the day. Who could resist seeing a gun blowup?

After everything was ready I fired two factory 220gr rounds to make sure everything was fine, it was.
I loaded all the ammo with Remington brass, 200gr Sierra bullets and CCI large rifle primers.

I then shot the following loads which showed maxim in the loading manuals.
A. 40.2 gr. 4895 All OK no problem opening the bolt
C. 36.3gr. 3031 All OK no problem opening the bolt
E. 40.9gr. 4064 All OK no problem opening the bolt
The following loads filled the case to the base of the bullet.
B. 43.0gr. 4895 All OK no problem opening the bolt
D. 41.0gr. 3031 All OK no problem opening the bolt
F. 44.0gr. 4064 All OK no problem opening the bolt

G. 20.0gr. Bullseye, Very loud noise, flattened primer, bolt very hard to open. I was a little surprised that the rifle was still in one piece.

H. 30gr. Bullseye receiver sheared off at the safety lug, both sides, receiver broke off at the bolt handle, top flange on the bolt face gone, back 3/8” of case gone, could read the headstamp on the bolt face. The barrel and back of the receiver flew out the front of the box and the box was blown apart but the paint was not so much as scratched.

Now to the important part of this experiment. ALL the rounds fired and listed above were fired after the single locking lug had been completely removed. The Krag has a well designed and strong safety lug.

No need to hot-rod the Krag I used one for years on both Moose and Caribou and it did a fine job with factory Remington 220’s.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #347253 - 28/11/20 05:56 AM

Yes stories of that experiment echo around the workbench spaces behind gun shops across the continents.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #347288 - 29/11/20 03:52 PM

Quote:

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John
Which model scope is that, and what is the distance between those dovetail blocks?

Thanks

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: tinker]
      #347315 - 29/11/20 11:50 PM

Tinker,
The scope is a 4X Unertl with a 3/4" tube. The distance between the centers of the scope blocks is 6 1/4 inches. I purchased the Krag without a scope, but the blocks were still on it. I found this really pristine Unertl and it just looks right on the rifle. I have loaded some .25-35 handloads with the intent of taking a Pronghorn with it but it has not happened yet.

Thanks.

John - Another old Texan.

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Re: Sedgley Sporters From 1930s [Re: TexasJohn]
      #347341 - 30/11/20 08:19 AM

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Tinker,
The scope is a 4X Unertl with a 3/4" tube. The distance between the centers of the scope blocks is 6 1/4 inches. I purchased the Krag without a scope, but the blocks were still on it. I found this really pristine Unertl and it just looks right on the rifle. I have loaded some .25-35 handloads with the intent of taking a Pronghorn with it but it has not happened yet.

Thanks.

John - Another old Texan.




Wow that certainly is a very long scope indeed John!
You must have to be very careful not to bump it even more so than a conventional scope.
Certainly fits the bill though & a great piece overall.....rather cool!
Hope you find some game soon to try her out.


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