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ducmarc
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heavy black powder load
#285053 - 11/07/16 12:33 PM

So I've been playing around with loads for my 45-120 highwall decided to try some black powder.made a drop tube.dropped cigarette rolling paper wad over the flash hole dropped 120grs of 3f squeezed a 535gr round nose over the top. Fired about 5 of them figured it was kicking pretty good.allways thought the gun was a little light so weighed it just under 9lbs. So the question is how does that stack up to a nitro express round.or a 500 Jeffery

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Re: heavy black powder load [Re: ducmarc]
#285057 - 11/07/16 02:09 PM

That charge, from a 30" bl.should make about 1,450fps, maybe 1,500fps. It is about 700fps short of the NE. Rounds
It is probably making about 33,000 to 35,00PSI.

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ducmarc
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Re: heavy black powder load [Re: DarylS]
#285063 - 11/07/16 09:50 PM

Then I'm on track power wise not something I could shoot all day without a recoil pad but not terrible.i wanted the gun to be a little light so I could carry it without need a gun carriage this fall for black bear.

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DarylS
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Re: heavy black powder load [Re: ducmarc]
#285065 - 12/07/16 01:09 AM

It'll work on BoBo, as well as everything else in N.A.
In my own .45x3-1/4", 2F was more accurate.
In your rifle, 62.0 gr. Re#7 + 300gr. Nosler will do wonders on everything here as well. That ran 2,200fps in my brother's Sharps & did well on a 2 yr. old bull moose. It would clover leaf at 100 meters for 3 shots using apertures. Needs a backer-rod filler.

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ducmarc
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Re: heavy black powder load [Re: DarylS]
#285082 - 12/07/16 01:27 PM

How much 2f did u stuff in ?I have some 2f holds about 110grs of that.could seat the bullet out a bit.read where some guys put ten grs. Of 3 then rest 2.

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Re: heavy black powder load [Re: ducmarc]
#286429 - 14/08/16 09:47 AM

Hey - missed seeing your post - was away for a while oon a week 1/2 road trip around the Province.

In RCBS cases with the patched undersized bullets - .451" WITH the paper patch, I used 116gr. 2F, a grease cookie and thin /-3-|" fiber wad. I used a disk of wax paper between the powder (compressed 1/10" with a home made powder compression die), then the thin card and then the patched bullet pushed in to the slightly sized case with my fingers.
I rubbed BP lube into the paper as well, but a spray with moly would also work.

In Bell cases, same loading scenario but with 122gr. 2F GOEX.

I got the idea of loading undersized bullets patched to the bore diameter from a book written by the late Paul Mathews (passed away Sept 2015). The book was called "The Paper Jacket". It works using soft bullets. 30:1 - tin to lead or 40:1, tin to lead. 2/3rds PB, 1/3 WW (crimp-on lead/antimony) also works.

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