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buckstix
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WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern
      #276077 - 04/01/16 11:14 PM

WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern made

or

other original "Vintage" bolt action rifle in BIG caliber.

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: buckstix]
      #276083 - 05/01/16 12:58 AM

just sold mine......

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: bouldersmith]
      #276100 - 05/01/16 05:06 AM

So ... why would I want to know that?

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: buckstix]
      #276102 - 05/01/16 06:19 AM

Quote:

So ... why would I want to know that?



Because the new buyer might be scared of the recoil now and want to sell it?

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: gryphon]
      #276109 - 05/01/16 08:06 AM

I know of a very nice 425WR by WR, in South Africa, if you can handle the paperwork. It was 30,000 rand iirc. Favorable exchange at the mo.
Send a pm if you're interested and I'll give you an email and a name

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: Pretorius]
      #276142 - 05/01/16 11:19 PM

Hello Pretorius54bn,

thanks for the reply ...

I'm a little to old to wait that long ....

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: buckstix]
      #276184 - 06/01/16 01:13 PM

What is WTD?

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: szihn]
      #276190 - 06/01/16 03:34 PM

Quote:

What is WTD?


Wanted in modern speak!

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: Rockdoc]
      #276210 - 07/01/16 02:47 AM

There's a nice Cogswell and harrision 404 on guns international.

Edited by Gundog01 (07/01/16 02:48 AM)

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: Gundog01]
      #276238 - 07/01/16 11:12 PM

Hello Gundog01,

Thanks for the reply.

I've seen that one, but I'm not a big fan of the Enfield action in that caliber. I've got 5 Custom Enfields in various Big Bore caibers, but they are a bit "clunky" and I'd like a 404 in a Mauser or similar variation with a "sleek" look.

btw - WTD = WANTED

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: buckstix]
      #276239 - 08/01/16 12:56 AM

Quote:

Hello Gundog01,

Thanks for the reply.

I've seen that one, but I'm not a big fan of the Enfield action in that caliber. I've got 5 Custom Enfields in various Big Bore caibers, but they are a bit "clunky" and I'd like a 404 in a Mauser or similar variation with a "sleek" look.

btw - WTD = WANTED



That is a clunky looking gun, good point. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: Gundog01]
      #276600 - 15/01/16 12:21 PM

Hello Gundog01

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not exactly sure how to describe what I want, beyond Vintage 404 Jeffery. But when the right one comes along, I'll know it when I see it.

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: buckstix]
      #276607 - 16/01/16 12:36 AM

Here is a nice one on a Magnum length square bridge.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100649961

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: Huvius]
      #276608 - 16/01/16 02:30 AM

Hello Huvius,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, its nice all right. I saw it when it was listed.

But its on the high $$ side, and out of Country. The additional import cost, shipping costs, tarrifs, and red-tape involved - well, that's too much for me. I'm getting too old for those unknowns.

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: Huvius]
      #276609 - 16/01/16 02:52 AM

Helmut,

This is not exactly what you had in mind, but Oh, my! http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5766654

It is a .404 built on a ZG47 action, which many, including me, think is the highest development of the Mauser design. Moreover, the only real fault of the action, the backwards safety, has been corrected. The German description may be beyond your language capability, but Google may be able to give you a rough translation. Otherwise, I can clear up any questions you have.

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Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern [Re: xausa]
      #276630 - 16/01/16 12:24 PM

Hello xausa,

Thanks for the reply.

I'd be a buyer for this one "if" it were in this country. I'm afraid the time and money to get it here would be more that I would want. It sure has the lines and the condition that apeal to me.

Any suggestions on how to get it here?

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SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle [Re: xausa]
      #276900 - 21/01/16 11:40 PM

I've located a Vintage Cogswell & Harrison in 404 Jeffery and moved the information over to "Big Bore Rifles" forum.




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Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle [Re: buckstix]
      #276954 - 22/01/16 04:03 PM

Wouldnt that be an Enfield action?

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Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle [Re: Ash]
      #276956 - 22/01/16 07:35 PM

Hello Ash,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, a P-17 Military Enfield that Cogswell & Harrison transformed into a Commercial Sporter.

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Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle [Re: buckstix]
      #276959 - 22/01/16 11:05 PM

First M1917 I've ever seen with a thumb cut. (There's no such thing as a P-17 Enfield.) I wonder what else C&H did to it. Cocking on opening? Custom trigger? Looks like custom bottom metal.

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Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle [Re: xausa]
      #276961 - 23/01/16 12:15 AM

Hello xausa.

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, M1917. Its still "cock on close" and the bottom metal is custom and made of aluminum.

I've had a few people tell me that "cock on close" was preferred by many Dangerous Game Hunters because working the bolt while the rifle was shouldered, required less muscle force than trying to "lift" the bolt from that position. Especially with rifles like the M1917 because of the heavy firing pin springs and the forge required to open the action. They say that lifting the bolt against the cocking force with the arm outstretched was awkward and slower that the "easy" lift and ejection of the spent cartridge, and then the natural "push" feed and "cock" as the rifle was aimed for a follow-up shot.

Since I have M1917s with both systems, I'll have to test that someday to see what I think.

I've got lots of posts out looking for someone that might have info on the production date based on the serial number 634xx. I've also contacted Cogswell & Harrison direct, but no response yet. From forum members I've heard everthing from 1920 - 1960, but nothing definite.

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