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Gundog01
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anyone know of a source for 10.75x68?
      #275242 - 18/12/15 02:22 PM

Anyone know of custom loaders or anyone producing 10.75x68? I have a line on a Mauser in that caliber, Ii might just get it rechamberred to 404 for ease of ammunition. Thank you!

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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: Gundog01]
      #275249 - 18/12/15 05:08 PM

Hi Gundog01,
Huntingtons have them listed as available.
https://www.huntingtons.com/store/product.php?productid=20363&cat=265&page=1
Good luck
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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: LesLeeSpeed]
      #275251 - 18/12/15 06:05 PM

I got my brass from Hornarber, Germany (eventually). Dies from RCBS

Load 66gr S355 Sonchem (RSA) with 347gr Claw bullet, gives 2300fps

My favourite caliber, I must say!


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #275263 - 19/12/15 01:03 AM

Buffalo Arms also stocks brass,it's converted from .375 H&H. I have tried some from Bertrum but the brass from Buffalo arms is more durable. The 10.75x68 a great caliber,_ if you pass on the Mauser I would like to hear more,never hurts to have a spare.

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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: rglenz]
      #275267 - 19/12/15 01:55 AM

Safari Arms LTD (http://safariarms.com/) sells 10.75x68 Mauser ammo for $205.00 - $215.00 per box.

The following companies make brass for the 10.75x68 Mauser. Hornaber, Bertram, Quality Cartridge, Buffalo Arms Co (formed brass, http://www.buffaloarms.com/Search.aspx?TERM=10.75x68

Safari Arms LTD Ammo.
I have an original 1930ish 10.75x68 Mauser. I purchased a box of ammo from Safari Arms LTD and the cartridges will not chamber. I was told that there is a difference is specs between SAAMI and CIP. The Safari Arms LTD is too long for my chamber.



10.75x68 Case Comparison
A Safari Arms LTD cartridge using Hornaber brass, a resized and fired Hornaber case and a resized, shortened and fired Bertram case used for crimping 400 gr Woodleigh bullets (2110 fps).


Edited by jgrabow (19/12/15 02:08 AM)


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: jgrabow]
      #275271 - 19/12/15 02:29 AM

Quote:

Safari Arms LTD (http://safariarms.com/) sells 10.75x68 Mauser ammo for $205.00 - $215.00 per box.

The following companies make brass for the 10.75x68 Mauser. Hornaber, Bertram, Quality Cartridge, Buffalo Arms Co (formed brass, http://www.buffaloarms.com/Search.aspx?TERM=10.75x68

Safari Arms LTD Ammo.
I have an original 1930ish 10.75x68 Mauser. I purchased a box of ammo from Safari Arms LTD and the cartridges will not chamber. I was told that there is a difference is specs between SAAMI and CIP. The Safari Arms LTD is too long for my chamber.



10.75x68 Case Comparison
A Safari Arms LTD cartridge using Hornaber brass, a resized and fired Hornaber case and a resized, shortened and fired Bertram case used for crimping 400 gr Woodleigh bullets (2110 fps).





Did they fix the issue and make you functional ammunition?


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: Gundog01]
      #275280 - 19/12/15 04:10 AM

No, by the time I got the ammo I was reloading my own. I do have a relatively short chamber and all the cases I purchased have the same problem. I resize the cases before using and they chamber without a problem.

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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: jgrabow]
      #275285 - 19/12/15 05:18 AM

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No, by the time I got the ammo I was reloading my own. I do have a relatively short chamber and all the cases I purchased have the same problem. I resize the cases before using and they chamber without a problem.




Can you post photos of your gun? I'm always curious to learn more about them.

Edited by Gundog01 (19/12/15 05:19 AM)


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: Gundog01]
      #275291 - 19/12/15 07:40 AM

I had the rifle restored by Dave Norin. His shop is located in northern Illinois on the Wisconsin border in the village of Antioch.

I had him replace the butt plate which was broken, add an internal cross bolt and re-cut the front sight dovetail to use standard front sights which allows me to change POI by changing the front sight.











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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: jgrabow]
      #275299 - 19/12/15 09:16 AM

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I had the rifle restored by Dave Norin. His shop is located in northern Illinois on the Wisconsin border in the village of Antioch.

I had him replace the butt plate which was broken, add an internal cross bolt and re-cut the front sight dovetail to use standard front sights which allows me to change POI by changing the front sight.















Great looking gun, thanks for the pics.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: jgrabow]
      #275302 - 19/12/15 11:09 AM

jgrabow,

That is a nice rifle. Is the 10.75X68 case the same case as the 8X68S just necked up?


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: Rule303]
      #275322 - 19/12/15 02:12 PM

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jgrabow,

That is a nice rifle. Is the 10.75X68 case the same case as the 8X68S just necked up?




No the 10.75x68 has a case unique to the cartridge with a rim of 12.41mm and base of 12.45mm as opposed to the 8x68S with a 13.00mm rim and 13.30mm base.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: eagle27]
      #275325 - 19/12/15 03:16 PM

Quote:

Quote:

jgrabow,

That is a nice rifle. Is the 10.75X68 case the same case as the 8X68S just necked up?




No the 10.75x68 has a case unique to the cartridge with a rim of 12.41mm and base of 12.45mm as opposed to the 8x68S with a 13.00mm rim and 13.30mm base.




Thanks Eagle.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: Gundog01]
      #275369 - 20/12/15 06:24 AM

Quote:

Ii might just get it rechamberred to 404 for ease of ammunition.



That's not as easy as you may think. Merely rechambering is not sufficient. You have to open up the bolt face too. Further, the Mauser, Oberndorf Commercial 10.75x68 action and magazine must be opened up to work with the longer and fatter .404 cartridge. The 10.75x68 has a CIP max cartridge over all length of 81 mm = 3.19", Mauser mags for this cartridge had an inside length of 84 mm = 3.3". This is insufficient for the .404 with it's max oal of 89.76 mm = 3.53". Mauser .404 magazines on their Magnum actions were 92 mm = 3.62" long.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: kuduae]
      #275377 - 20/12/15 07:29 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Ii might just get it rechamberred to 404 for ease of ammunition.



That's not as easy as you may think. Merely rechambering is not sufficient. You have to open up the bolt face too. Further, the Mauser, Oberndorf Commercial 10.75x68 action and magazine must be opened up to work with the longer and fatter .404 cartridge. The 10.75x68 has a CIP max cartridge over all length of 81 mm = 3.19", Mauser mags for this cartridge had an inside length of 84 mm = 3.3". This is insufficient for the .404 with it's max oal of 89.76 mm = 3.53". Mauser .404 magazines on their Magnum actions were 92 mm = 3.62" long.




True but can be done easily enough and is a relatively common alteration on a standard M98 action.

My own Oberndorf Mauser which was a 10.75x68 originally has been opened up for the .404 Jeffery cartridge.

I would not do this now or recommend it with the availability of ammo and loading components for the 10.75x68, there is no earthly need to do so. The .423" Mauser as it was more commonly known was a popular cartridge in the heyday of Africa and India hunting but was only let down in performance at times by the poor bullets. But then so too were many cartridges of that era especially with the nickel jacketed type that often riveted and broke up.

kuduae if you really want or need a .404 go for it but I strongly recommend leaving your rifle original and focus on getting a good supply of reloading components for it including a bullet mould. cast bullets let you shoot a lot without the wear and tear on the barrel and cases last a long time especially if annealed regularly. The 10.75x68 will do everything you want of it.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: eagle27]
      #275378 - 20/12/15 08:52 AM

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kuduae if you really want or need a .404




eagle 27, not kuduae, but Gundog01 thinks about rechambering a 10.75x68 to .404.I don't need or want a .404, especially not on an opened up standard length action. I have a Mauser in an even more exotic chambering, 10.75x63, forerunner of the x68. And I have a very satisfactory rifle on a ZKK action in .416 Rigby, besides many more, so I feel no earthly need for a .404.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: kuduae]
      #275379 - 20/12/15 09:13 AM







My 10.75x68 stock from the loading room.

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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: eagle27]
      #275382 - 20/12/15 10:30 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Ii might just get it rechamberred to 404 for ease of ammunition.



That's not as easy as you may think. Merely rechambering is not sufficient. You have to open up the bolt face too. Further, the Mauser, Oberndorf Commercial 10.75x68 action and magazine must be opened up to work with the longer and fatter .404 cartridge. The 10.75x68 has a CIP max cartridge over all length of 81 mm = 3.19", Mauser mags for this cartridge had an inside length of 84 mm = 3.3". This is insufficient for the .404 with it's max oal of 89.76 mm = 3.53". Mauser .404 magazines on their Magnum actions were 92 mm = 3.62" long.




True but can be done easily enough and is a relatively common alteration on a standard M98 action.

My own Oberndorf Mauser which was a 10.75x68 originally has been opened up for the .404 Jeffery cartridge.

I would not do this now or recommend it with the availability of ammo and loading components for the 10.75x68, there is no earthly need to do so. The .423" Mauser as it was more commonly known was a popular cartridge in the heyday of Africa and India hunting but was only let down in performance at times by the poor bullets. But then so too were many cartridges of that era especially with the nickel jacketed type that often riveted and broke up.

kuduae if you really want or need a .404 go for it but I strongly recommend leaving your rifle original and focus on getting a good supply of reloading components for it including a bullet mould. cast bullets let you shoot a lot without the wear and tear on the barrel and cases last a long time especially if annealed regularly. The 10.75x68 will do everything you want of it.




Yes I was thinking of rechambering one, but It was just a thought. I'd love to keep the original chamfering if at all possible.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: kuduae]
      #275398 - 20/12/15 02:33 PM

Quote:

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kuduae if you really want or need a .404




eagle 27, not kuduae, but Gundog01 thinks about rechambering a 10.75x68 to .404.I don't need or want a .404, especially not on an opened up standard length action. I have a Mauser in an even more exotic chambering, 10.75x63, forerunner of the x68. And I have a very satisfactory rifle on a ZKK action in .416 Rigby, besides many more, so I feel no earthly need for a .404.




Sorry kuduae I got the OP mixed up.

Your 10.75x63 would be quite rare, I recall shooting my friends one at a range in Germany, can't recall the rifle but do recall we were having issues with hangfires with the loading he was trying out but I'm short on the powder and bullet details too. I shot so many different cartridges in firearms that two of my good friends owned that I lost track of which was which and back then they were all mostly exotic cartridges that I hadn't heard of before.
It was my friend with the 10.75x63 who gave me a quantity of RWS 347gr soft point bullets and a couple of boxes of new RWS .404 Jeffery cases for my .404.


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: m4220]
      #275399 - 20/12/15 02:51 PM

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My 10.75x68 stock from the loading room.

m4220




Showoff

I remember importing a good bunch of RWS 401gr FMJ bullets for my .404 back in the late 70's and they all arrived in those flimsy round plastic green boxes, many cracked and broken open with more than a few bullets loose in the wrapped up packet which itself had developed a small hole where a bullet was protruding. The lady in the post office (her husband was a hunter) was very intrigued, pulling a bullet free from the package to inquire what I would be using them on.
Fortunately all the bullets I ordered were accounted for in the package.

Interestingly your RWS FMJ bullets are stamped on the base with the RWS shield, mine were not. I don't see any of these 347grainers in your collection?






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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: eagle27]
      #275400 - 20/12/15 03:07 PM

AHH HAA!!!! Another Hoarder!!!

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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: m4220]
      #275402 - 20/12/15 04:23 PM

for a good reason, 350 grains bullets are hard to find this days

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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: lancaster]
      #275404 - 20/12/15 04:51 PM

Sorry to get off the OP's subject but can anyone identify the copper coated steel jacketed hollow nose bullet in my photo.
It is a RWS bullet weighing 285 grains and I pulled it from a Berdan primed Norma headstamped 10.75x68 cartridge given to me years ago. Fortunately nobody had tried to use the cartridge as there was no powder in the case. Has obviously been made up as a demo cartridge or something but I have not seen one of these RWS bullets before.

The hollow nose seems to be factory produced, punched rather than someone drilling the nose out.

Perhaps someone has an old RWS catalogue listing this bullet?


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: eagle27]
      #275410 - 20/12/15 07:59 PM

Could any of You recommend mould for lead bullet for 10,75x68.Preferably ca 400 grain
and using .429 gas check.Try and error method is to bothersome and expensive.I have
Org.Mauser Oberndorf.One with 360 mm twist the other with 420 mm(14.7 and 16.5 inches)
Thanks


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Re: anyone know of a source for 10.75x68? [Re: korv]
      #275422 - 21/12/15 06:35 AM

There are a lot of bullets available for reloading the 10.75x68 Mauser. Here are a few I have but have not tried all yet. The longer bullets might not work because of their length.


Woodleigh 10.75x68mm 347gr FMJ, Woodleigh 10.75x68mm 347gr RN SN, Woodleigh 404 Jeffery 350gr RN SN, Woodleigh 404 Jeffery 400gr FMJ, Woodleigh 404 Jeffery 400gr RN SN, Cutting Edge .423 Cal 325gr Safari Raptor, Cutting Edge .423 Cal 250gr Tipped Safari Raptor, Swift 404 Cal 400gr A-Frame Semi-Spitzer Soft Point, GS Custom Bullets .423 Cal 387gr FN, GS Custom Bullets .423 Cal 320gr HV

The two I want to try are the Cutting Edge .423 Cal 250gr Tipped Safari Raptor and the GS Custom Bullets .423 Cal 320gr HV.

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