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Igorrock
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Key for H&H shotgun case lock
#274637 - 06/12/15 05:27 AM

Has anybody ever made a new key for H&H shotgun case lock. I have one for restauration and it´s lock seems to work OK but it needs a new key.

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Rockdoc
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Igorrock]
#274657 - 06/12/15 11:53 AM

Has anybody ever bought an old Holland and had a key with the case?

I know I haven't! Can't work out why not.

I will be interested in seeing what you end up with. Also would like to see progress pictures of the case restoration if you wouldn't mind.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Rockdoc]
#274668 - 06/12/15 05:57 PM

Only bought one old case with keys and they don't work anyway.

I guess that is why these cases came with straps, when the boozed up owners lost the guncase keys.

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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: NitroX]
#274979 - 13/12/15 12:14 AM

Any good locksmith should be able to impression a key for these old warded locks.
Doug

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Kiwi_bloke
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: gungadoug]
#275196 - 17/12/15 04:27 PM

Maybe if you looked up "key" and "Brady case" as search terms, you might find someone with blanks. My Rigby case comes with 2 thoughtfully tied to a piece of cord. Originally owned by a medical doctor, perhaps a careful one! They don't look too difficult to cut. In fact, a file would probably do it. H&H cases were a little more elaborate than most. Why not ask H&H in London if they have key-blanks? I found the guys there very obliging.

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Igorrock
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
#275201 - 17/12/15 07:13 PM

Thanks for yours comment, suitable blanks are quite easy to find. I have made two keys for other cases over the years but seems that H&H lock is a litte difficultier "animal" so I rejected the idea of new key.

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Mike_Bailey
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Rockdoc]
#275202 - 17/12/15 07:39 PM

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Has anybody ever bought an old Holland and had a key with the case?

I know I haven't! Can't work out why not.

I will be interested in seeing what you end up with. Also would like to see progress pictures of the case restoration if you wouldn't mind.

Cheers, Chris

Has anyone ever bought ANY old case that came with a key. There must be someone in the world who has a collection of 10´s of thousands of old gun case keys

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Rockdoc
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#275204 - 17/12/15 08:41 PM

I sometimes struggle to find the keys to new cases.......

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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#275212 - 18/12/15 02:15 AM

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Quote:

Has anybody ever bought an old Holland and had a key with the case?

I know I haven't! Can't work out why not.

I will be interested in seeing what you end up with. Also would like to see progress pictures of the case restoration if you wouldn't mind.

Cheers, Chris

Has anyone ever bought ANY old case that came with a key. There must be someone in the world who has a collection of 10´s of thousands of old gun case keys

My Alexander Henry hammerless .450BPE came in its original case with the key present.

Note that the tag is dated August 8, 1906.

Here is a thread about my rifle: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....3&fpart=all

Curl

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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Igorrock]
#275213 - 18/12/15 02:31 AM

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Has anybody ever made a new key for H&H shotgun case lock. I have one for restauration and it´s lock seems to work OK but it needs a new key.

But the original question pertains to keys for an original H&H gun case. I do happen to have an original case complete with its keys. My .303 H&H hammer double rifle from 1901. http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....0&fpart=all

Here are the keys:

Hey Nitro, what was that you were saying about "boozed up owners"?

Curl

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Mike_Bailey
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: CptCurl]
#275217 - 18/12/15 03:47 AM

It´s Cpt Curl !!! He also has 9463 keys for cases he doesn´t own !

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Igorrock
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#275233 - 18/12/15 11:31 AM

Thanks for foto, CptCurl but it's too late. The case left the house today.

Here is three fotos who tells what's happened to it. As you can see I made a total renovation. I had even to do some modification to cases layout because local stock maker lenghten my clients guns butt stock almost 2".

Before:

Works has begun:

After:

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Rockdoc
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Igorrock]
#275244 - 18/12/15 03:12 PM

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Thanks for foto, CptCurl but it's too late. The case left the house today.

Here is three fotos who tells what's happened to it. As you can see I made a total renovation. I had even to do some modification to cases layout because local stock maker lenghten my clients guns butt stock almost 2".

Before:

Works has begun:

After:

Igorrock, that is some great work. How did you transfer the labels? Also, did you renovate the exterior of the case and the straps?

CptCurl, you are showing off some splendid weapons sir.

Cheers, Chris

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Igorrock
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Re: Key for H&H shotgun case lock [Re: Rockdoc]
#275255 - 18/12/15 08:05 PM

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How did you transfer the labels? Also, did you renovate the exterior of the case and the straps?

Yes, I did "full monty" i.e. fixing for in and outside, new straps and new attacments for handle piece and new leather corners for case lid. Labels are attached with hide glue so they are quite easy to transfer.

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