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mckinney
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Help - import of Colt SAA denied
#268526 - 26/07/15 03:12 AM

I've been informed by my importer that ATF has denied import of a Colt SAA because it's a little 'too small'. I am trying to determine whether this is a mistake and have asked the importer to follow up.

The gun is a bone stock second generation SAA with 5 1/2 inch barrel, original grips, blue, no target sights - your basic Peacemaker. By my reckoning it scores 67 on the ATF's 45 point scale for revolvers This is a large frame revolver. Caliber is .45 Colt.

Any thoughts on why it might have been denied? In the document it is described correctly as a model 1873 SAA. Could ATF have confused it with another Colt model?

More information as I get it, but in the meantime grateful for any thoughts on this.

Thanks

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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: mckinney]
#268539 - 26/07/15 02:26 PM

Was it made in or before 1898?

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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: DoubleD]
#268540 - 26/07/15 02:31 PM

2nd generation Colt SAA revolvers were made from 1956 to 1974.
Definately not antiques.

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DoubleD
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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: Iowa_303s]
#268541 - 26/07/15 02:40 PM

I looked, plain and simple, Colt SAA can't pass the drop test.

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mckinney
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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: DoubleD]
#268543 - 26/07/15 03:58 PM

DoubleD, thanks for this. I thought that might be the case but I couldn't find anything on line. Also, it's puzzling that the importer said the gun was too small. Still waiting to get a better explanation.

Can you point me to a link or website where I can find the drop test info for the SAA? Do you know whether they can be altered to pass the test without ruining the gun?

thanks again

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DoubleD
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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: mckinney]
#268626 - 27/07/15 03:44 PM

Google: drop test handgun importation

Look for link to ATF Form 4590.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61591/download

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-gu...ts-war-atf-form

The gun would have to be modified before importation,

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Edited by DoubleD (28/07/15 01:00 AM)

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mckinney
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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: DoubleD]
#268662 - 28/07/15 11:55 PM

Well, a bit more information from the importer. ATF doesn't give a reason when an import is rejected, nor do they publish a list of models which won't pass the drop test (apparently for fear of manipulation). The earlier comment that the gun was 'too small' was from an employee of the importer. If a revolver meets the 45 point factoring test and is still rejected, it is inferred that it fails the safety test, which is clearly the case with the SAA. So, knowledge gained and no real harm done as I will consign it back to the auction house.

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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: mckinney]
#269396 - 19/08/15 03:22 AM

We sure don't want any of these highly unsafe American guns let into the USA.

Curl

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Re: Help - import of Colt SAA denied [Re: CptCurl]
#269403 - 19/08/15 09:17 AM

Quote:

We sure don't want any of these highly unsafe American guns let into the USA.

Curl

Yes, especially since the second generation 1873s are so much more modern and dangerous than the original pre 1898 versions.

This is exactly why I am just fine buying pre 1898 firearms. WAY less hassle in every respect.

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