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xausa
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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: xausa]
      #261845 - 07/03/15 04:25 AM

"This is what I took with me on three hunting trips, a total of eleven weeks in Africa:

1. .300 H&H
2. .505 SRE (equivalent to .500 NE)

I also had a .375 H&H/.458 Winchester Magnum double rifle along, but used it only rarely, the .375 more often than the .458."

I forgot to add that on my third trip I took, in addition to the above, a Kreighoff combination gun in 12 ga./.30-'06 with an interchangeable rifle barrel in .222 Remington, a pre-64 Model 70 .450 Watts, and a 7X57 on a G33/40 action. I used all of them to take game. The 7X57 in particular was very effective on animals as large as wildebeest, and I also took a record book Peters gazelle with it. The .222 was used on a nice representative klipspringer.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: NitroX]
      #261847 - 07/03/15 06:06 AM

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Favourite would depend on the circumstances. Is the plains game hunting conducted during a dangerous game hunt as well? Then my answer would be different.

First my simple choice for the survey is:

1. 8x68S
2. .450 NE

But not for the survey but as part of a discussion if plains game is hunted along with dangerous game, I would choose:

.375 H&H Mag
.450 NE

The above allows redunancy. If the double is not being held, th .375 will work fine. If a scoped shot is needed, the .375 is also available.





Agree with the 375 for a plains game hunt when in/on a Dangerous game area such as in Zim or Tanzania..will never go on a plains game hunt again in such and area without a .375 or similar..

Having said that, the combo I have shown of 300 RUM and 416 Rem I used have accounted for 72 head of game in Africa..so it works..at least by my standards..this was over 4 hunts and about 3 months in Africa total..which is soon to increase..

Ripp

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: dracb]
      #262401 - 17/03/15 08:03 PM

If I ever make it over there these would be my choices

1. 300 H&H or 275 Rigby
2. 404 Jeffery

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: Ripp]
      #262404 - 17/03/15 09:06 PM

Quote:

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Favourite would depend on the circumstances. Is the plains game hunting conducted during a dangerous game hunt as well? Then my answer would be different.

First my simple choice for the survey is:

1. 8x68S
2. .450 NE

But not for the survey but as part of a discussion if plains game is hunted along with dangerous game, I would choose:

.375 H&H Mag
.450 NE

The above allows redunancy. If the double is not being held, th .375 will work fine. If a scoped shot is needed, the .375 is also available.





Agree with the 375 for a plains game hunt when in/on a Dangerous game area such as in Zim or Tanzania..will never go on a plains game hunt again in such and area without a .375 or similar..

Having said that, the combo I have shown of 300 RUM and 416 Rem I used have accounted for 72 head of game in Africa..so it works..at least by my standards..this was over 4 hunts and about 3 months in Africa total..which is soon to increase..

Ripp



Ripp, for me my point was less that carrying a DGR was preferable to carrying a plains game rifle in DG country, and more, that having a scope sighted .375 along with a non scope sighted .450 double allowed DG hunting flexibility.
1. Two DG capable firearms, if a problem occurs to one.
2. A scope sighted bolt action .375 is useful at times where a non scope sighted .450 DR is not, eg shooting a buff in a herd, perhaps longer shots.
3. The .450 DR is still preferable where it could be used.
4. The scope sighted .375 is still Ok on plains game type shots.

However if carrying a .375 to hunt a Kudu and that once in a lifetime 50" hard bosses bull buffalo jumps up to run away, you DO have a capable rifle ready to go in your hands instantly ... rather than having to swap it for a different rifle from a tracker.

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Ripp
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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: NitroX]
      #262413 - 18/03/15 12:29 AM

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Favourite would depend on the circumstances. Is the plains game hunting conducted during a dangerous game hunt as well? Then my answer would be different.

First my simple choice for the survey is:

1. 8x68S
2. .450 NE

But not for the survey but as part of a discussion if plains game is hunted along with dangerous game, I would choose:

.375 H&H Mag
.450 NE

The above allows redunancy. If the double is not being held, th .375 will work fine. If a scoped shot is needed, the .375 is also available.





Agree with the 375 for a plains game hunt when in/on a Dangerous game area such as in Zim or Tanzania..will never go on a plains game hunt again in such and area without a .375 or similar..

Having said that, the combo I have shown of 300 RUM and 416 Rem I used have accounted for 72 head of game in Africa..so it works..at least by my standards..this was over 4 hunts and about 3 months in Africa total..which is soon to increase..

Ripp



Ripp, for me my point was less that carrying a DGR was preferable to carrying a plains game rifle in DG country, and more, that having a scope sighted .375 along with a non scope sighted .450 double allowed DG hunting flexibility.
1. Two DG capable firearms, if a problem occurs to one.
2. A scope sighted bolt action .375 is useful at times where a non scope sighted .450 DR is not, eg shooting a buff in a herd, perhaps longer shots.
3. The .450 DR is still preferable where it could be used.
4. The scope sighted .375 is still Ok on plains game type shots.

However if carrying a .375 to hunt a Kudu and that once in a lifetime 50" hard bosses bull buffalo jumps up to run away, you DO have a capable rifle ready to go in your hands instantly ... rather than having to swap it for a different rifle from a tracker.



John,

I agree with that and it makes sense. My point was, based on my experience, if you are hunting in DG areas for plains game, IMHO, leave the 270's at home. The .375 you mention in your scenario is perfect for anything you will encounter, and as you stated, if you bump into a huge buff, you still have the power to drop him as well..

Ripp

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: Ripp]
      #262494 - 19/03/15 03:23 PM

Medium bore; 9.3x62 or the flanged equivalent.
Big bore ; 458MAG or 470NE

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: Ripp]
      #262495 - 19/03/15 03:30 PM

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Ripp



John,

I agree with that and it makes sense. My point was, based on my experience, if you are hunting in DG areas for plains game, IMHO, leave the 270's at home. The .375 you mention in your scenario is perfect for anything you will encounter, and as you stated, if you bump into a huge buff, you still have the power to drop him as well..

Ripp



Yes, best leave the light rounds at home is sage advise if spending time in a big game area

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: ozhunter]
      #262511 - 20/03/15 01:19 AM


.333cal Jeffery
.270Weatherby.
Both work perfect.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: ozhunter]
      #262518 - 20/03/15 07:21 AM

Quote:

9.3x62 or the flanged equivalent.



This

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: 93mouse]
      #262522 - 20/03/15 07:51 AM

.375/06IMP - puts everything from 225gr. SP's to 300's into 2" at 100 meters, same point of aim. 2,850fps with 225's, 2,650fps with 270's down to 2,470fps with 300's. All chrono'd.

Spare rifle - 9.3x62 Oberndorf Mauser with the same bullet range.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: DarylS]
      #262537 - 20/03/15 02:28 PM

Classic calibers: .303 British & .450 x 3 1/4" N.E.
Practical today: .375 H&H for everthing.
Just my thoughts, having never been to africa.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #262541 - 20/03/15 04:23 PM

Interesting to read the responses. Many of the choices show NE members as unique and interesting persons making often choices out of the ordinary, often with a historical flair.

Not surprising at all!

Compared to what the average client I think would choose. The .375 H&H Magnum being the exception of course, which also makes sense, it is a best choice for many reasons, traditional yet "modern", and also historical. The first belted magnum cartridge I believe (?) and a true all round cartridge.

At some point we will have to have a discussion on what hasn't been chosen and why, yet are probably popular with safari clients.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: dracb]
      #262550 - 20/03/15 06:16 PM

It'd be a toss up between a 577/500 Mag or the 450 NE (scoped and holo) or a 577 BPE (all doubles)for DG

And either a 9.3X74R (scoped) or a 300 H&H scoped, also doubles.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: AkMike]
      #262551 - 20/03/15 07:25 PM

I choose the 350Rigby loaded to its potential as the plains game rifle because it can double as a DG rifle-Though not legaly for some DG. It will match a 300RUM necked to 358 and Taylor thought it good for Elephants with a 300grain projectile.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: Rule303]
      #262584 - 21/03/15 07:42 AM



1. .375H&H

2. .475 3 1/4 NE

I have used the .375H&H on PG with good effect in Namibia. I am considering building a .404 Jeffery or .416 Rigby Mauser to complement the double for DG. I sold my .416 Rigby, too light for calibre and was offered a good price...gone. Would like to build a new one to my spec....the .416 Rigby is a very powerful round.

If given the possibility (dreaming) to shoot a lot of elephant I would consider a double in .577/.600 NE.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: dracb]
      #263294 - 08/04/15 09:39 PM

plains game:
long distance: 8x68S or 8mm Rem mag or 300 Weatherby
brush distance: 358 Norma Mag or 9,3x64 or 375 Weatherby

dangerous game:
404 Jeffery or 450 Rigby rimless or 505 Gibbs (bolt action)
500 NE (DB)

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: dracb]
      #263998 - 22/04/15 04:40 PM

A .338 Winchester magnum loaded with a good quality 250 grain bullet.I load this .338 to factory claimed velocities. A .458 Winchester magnum with 500 grain solids and softs that must strike within an inch of each other at 100 yards, and show an instrumental velocity of 2150 fps.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: Wanabebwana]
      #264728 - 09/05/15 05:36 AM

For the Dark Continent my preference is the combo consisting of 300 H&H and 400 H&H.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: CZ_hunter]
      #265816 - 02/06/15 11:28 AM

.375 RUM
.470 Nitro



Waiting on 300 replies?

Might be a while before we have an official tally...

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: dracb]
      #265827 - 02/06/15 01:27 PM

1.340wby
2.500 NE

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: 500Boswell]
      #265860 - 03/06/15 06:01 AM

IMHO the better calibres ever are that you have chosen. Because half of the pleasure of going on safari is about to rejoice yourself with whath you are opting for. Every day training, every day checking loads, doubting no end, and so on. The "old hands" are pleased to provide you with recipes, and this way getting a lot of joy enbodying your hunt.
Keep on the good job on trying to do the best with what your are planning. Unconsciously and because you're no fool, you have taken advantage of thousands of advices from books and from forums and that lead you to no fool options.
Hunting in Africa is the first reason to buy special rifles. So be it, fulfill your dream first and don't opt for shortcuts as this is all about your pleasure first.
Asking advices? the older the hunter the minimalist his options will be, with his OWN (I insist on own) choice.
My absolute recommendation is follow your feeling and what please You most.
My egoitical peronnal option is using my seasonned Sauer 375 for almost every game, and my chapuis 470 that I never used in Africa, prefering to travel light. Stupid option but I stand to it, perhaps because I now haven't the tenth of Your commitment.
Try liberally you options. I wish You plenty of fun and also doubts and regrets so as to once again test your talents in this never ending quest for Africa hunting.
Good luck my friend and don't forget that quite a lot are living your adventure by your proxy.
Please forgive my poor English, that comes from my heart and my odd personnal believes. Good luck

Edited by larcher (03/06/15 06:08 AM)

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: larcher]
      #265869 - 03/06/15 01:53 PM

When I eventually go on an african plains game hunt I will take
1. 9.3x62 open sight Mauser Oberndorf
2. 7x57 Brno with a 3-9x42 kahles scope.

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: stug]
      #265883 - 04/06/15 06:07 AM

Boy it would be a difficult choice
I'd never get the chance of getting there unless by winning lotto!
However Rolf I believe you're right on the money!

plains game:
brush distance: 9,3x64 - 286gn PP woodleighs

dangerous game:
404 Jeffery - 400gn PPRN woodleighs

I will have to try the new generation capped hydros & see how they go, the first lot were a real bitch to feed in my 9.3 & not as accurate. Sort of gave up experimenting on them.
Bullet placement the most critical factor, but without a good bullet you'll be toast over there!
To all that who make it I can only echo Larcher's comments
93x64mm

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: 93x64mm]
      #266081 - 08/06/15 09:54 AM

PG - .300 H&H (my Boddington Kudu No 1)
DG - .404 Jeffrey (saving pennies for Heym Express)

Edited by tarbe (08/06/15 09:56 AM)

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Re: Calibers for Africa- Members' survey [Re: larcher]
      #266096 - 08/06/15 06:48 PM

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... perhaps because I now haven't the tenth of Your commitment.





Be aware our good friend larcher/JB has hunted a fair number of times in Africa and some very interesting and dedicated hunts. An enthusiastic bow hunter too. So he speaks with authority.

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