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What the site doesn't cover is that Lupo's PH had to cover his ass with his shooting along Lupo's. In fact, with the big ones, Lupo didn't put 'em down the way it shouldn't have been done. If the PH hadn't shot, Lupo wouldn't have been able to post his pics on Garrett's site.

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Hey Martin, welcome to the site. You will find this place a lot more civilized than some others regarding the 45-70.

Not less opinionated, just more civilized.





Lovu Zdar

Mick

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Thank's for the Welcome

May i ask ? what is it that you most often use to hunt with
other then like so many say the mind what type of rifle and what cal/ Hope you don't mind me prying.

Thanks again for the welcome to the board .

Just a note about what i drag out on to the field
I hunt in " Very " heavy cover thick brush and i at one time used a s/s 10 Gauge when i lived in alaska i have since change over to the 47/70 GS When i hunt in the more open places on the ranch i use the 9.3x64 butthere are no real big game other then the Elk and Deer. i do one the other hand use the 45/70 to hunt the brush on the ranch
for Couger and for that i use my own bullets thin walls on the jackets and a very deap hollow cavity i want them dead.
Its a pain in the hind end to try and go after anything in the brush last time out i was walking up the side of the cliff and three young cougers popped out not more then 3 feet in front on me i went back down that cliff on my butt
i went one way the rifle went the other if it hadn't of happened to me it would have been funny.
Thats the number one reason i carry the short barrel rifle
if it would have been a mature couger well chances are i would have got a shot off but i would have still been on my behind sliding down that slipper slop going end over end .

Anyway ...Sorry about the rampling on guy and thanks for the welcome to the board
Martin

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May i ask ? what is it that you most often use to hunt with
other then like so many say the mind what type of rifle and what cal/ Hope you don't mind me prying.

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Now that is a complicated question. If I'm at my place in BC I cannot legally hunt without a guide. The fishing is pretty terrific though so, If I'm concerned with Bears, Black and Griz, usually in the Spring when they just have their Cubs, I carry a Mod 71 348. Sometimes a Mod 762 in '06 w/220 grain loads. Small, handy, and potent at the ranges I would have to shoot, 5 yards or less.

I have been thinking of building a 9.3x62 on a BLR. That would be pretty cool.

If on horseback I like the 348 also for Bears as it is very thin, light and with a very light scabbard easy to have around. As you can guess it is well used and not a collector's piece.

When hunting on horseback, bolt action, usually my 340 Weatherby.

In Alaska always the 375 SS Win.

When on foot in the US my 9.3x74R for everything except Mule Deer and Pronghorn, then a 300 H&H by Marholt.

Any of these can be replaced by a mood or whim.

I have had a couple of 45-70 in the Marlin. They are alright but I prefer the 348 with 250 grain bullets for the same things.

I would never take one to Africa. Not because they wouldn't work, they would, mostly, but because there are so many more versitile cartridges and rifles.

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I guess that's what a good safe heavy loaded revolver is for, those close surprises when you can't get your carbine into action. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 45-70 if you use it for what it was made for, shorter distances and up to 150 yds. I still have mine (3) and still love them. It's just I have many other bigger rifles to use for really big stuff and have every confidence that they will do the job (375 H&H, 375 Ultra, 416 Rigby, 458 WM, & 458 Lott). I no longer have a double at the moment but will take care of that in a little while.

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Thank's for the reply guy

Well said ... when i am out there i am not about to drag my Ruger M77 458 it weighs somthing like 16 Lb's Forget that noses My 35x378 weighs somthing like 29 ?+ Lb's that isn't going to happen any time soon this little Marlin is about the most light weight little critter i have ever pack out .

And there is now way on this earth you or anyone else is going to get me to lug this over weight zillion year old
Brno 416 Rigby any place soon save the 40 feet from up stairs to the basemnet to test bullets in
i would part with it but it was dad's

I don't shoot the 45/70 anything over 200 Feet theres no scope on it to start with and i don't want to start trying to make this thing some kind of bench rest rifle
it is what it is .

And as for a handgun i have my 1973 44 Automag i bought
my 29 is almost as big with the 8 3/8's but when i bought that over price shinny stop sign i was a kid and wanted to make sure everyonje knew i have a really cool pistol thats why i got the crome plated vertion god its an eye sore.

The bullet's i make up for my 45/70 for Couger could/should never be use on game a person plains to eat
thay make a hole like the holland tunnel going in and coming out IF thay do make it out.

For me its a case of if i owned Ed Hubel's 700 Hubel express i would make up diffrent bullet's for it diffrent from the ones i do make and i would use it to hunt Couger
although it does weigh a ton Well not quite but the point is that i want the biggest light weight rifle i can use again those couger i have messed up years ago and took it for granted that thay were just an over sized house cat and could be taken down with about any size rifle ..And thay can but if a person doesn't kill them in the first shot and thay get away ...well a wounded couger is no a house cat it a house cat on staroids x 10 .

and having to track a super POed couger into rocky crags with millions of hiding places is no fun and worrying about it popping out and snapping my head off wasn't much fun.


Anyway .. i am rambling again ...


Thanks for the welcome to the board guy


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I have been thinking of building a 9.3x62 on a BLR. That would be pretty cool.

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Thats a good one but i you might want to think just for fun about trying that convertion using the BLR from a 300 Winchester mag to a 50-110 the BLR as you already know is a 55.000 PSI action and one like that rechambered into a
50-110 is the cat's meow you wind up with a lever action thats about the same as a 505 Gibbs.
525 grain at 2350 in a BLR 50-110 is no joke just don't pass your reloaded ammo out to folks with the winchester vertion of the 50-110 i really don't know if it could handle the extra PSI the souped up 50-110 reloaded ammo is running at around 51.000 to 51.800 PSI and no one could every pay me enough to try them out in a Winchester lever action god loves Varge powder thats about all i will say on that topic

Sounds like you have a really nice place to fish
I lived in Alaska for a few years with the wife and kids on the ( Res ) i miss the hunting and fishing but not the state
bird ( White sock )

Those are very good choise's for rilfes to hunt with
are you reloading for your 348 or buying factory ammo?

With your 348 are you using 250 grain bullet's in it ?

as for the /06 i had thought long and hard about having one built with a super short barrel and light weight stock
for these pesky couger its a great all around round
and darn hard to beat for a first time shooter rifle choise

anyway once again i am starting to ramble on

Thanks Micky for your comments and warm welcome to the Board







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I was referring to having a Ruger SA in either 44 Mag or 45 Colt in either a 4 5/8" or 5 1/2" barrel that just sits on your hip with the proper belt/holster combination. The Ruger revolvers in the Bisley configuration is the cat's meow as far handling recoil is concerned. I can't lug my 475 around w/o my shoulder holster for a b/u gun so it has become a primary weapon if I'm not lugging a carbine or another rifle.

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I understand buddy i have thought long and hard about swapping out the over weighted AutoMag for my 4 5/8's 41mag Ruger Single action...
And i understand about the shoulder holster i only have my old fast draw holster for the 41 and have been thinking about getting a pancake for it ..


I got to add somthing here this is about the most polite
board i have every been on guy's


Thanks for the reply's

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I got to add somthing here this is about the most polite
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If you go to Announcments you will see a discussion under Code of Conduct that attempts to define us.

So far we have decided not to require a tie.

Mostly we all get along and respect each others views. Even if we disagree.

There are no rules about name calling or rudeness but most members choose not to do either. Obvious BS is handled forth right and promptly by the members. So far trolls and other disagreeable types have left of their own accord. No one has yet been banned.

We have as members some who are considered trolls, or almost trolls on other Forums but they do not behave in a way that is detrimental to this Forum, here. Maybe it is because we have other things to talk about, besides each other?



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Mick

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