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gunbug
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Kreigoff Doubles
      #258518 - 03/01/15 02:52 PM

I don't see any posts here about the Kreigoff doubles with combi cocking devise.Anyone
have Any experience with them .Dan

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GG375
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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: gunbug]
      #258529 - 03/01/15 04:54 PM

I really like mine. It's a scoped 9.3x74 and the combi cocking device works well.

My only complaint is that, when broken for reloading, the barrels tend to spring up a little so I have to sort of hold them down while I clear the empties and replace with live rounds.

Cheers.

GG

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: GG375]
      #258530 - 03/01/15 05:00 PM

I've used one. I don't mind the safety/cocking device. I think such a device is actually quite useful on a rifle which may be carried a lot with rounds in the chambers. I find the uncocking device on my bolt action Mauser M03 very useful and more reassuring than a usual safety. Given the barrel must still be pointed in a safe direction but it is more reassuring.

I think for professional hunters a decocker on a double rifle would be an excellent idea. The DR could be kept loaded but decocked and carried far more than it is ever shot.

I don't mind the Germanic styling of the Kriefhoff's but do prefer a more English styled DR.

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: NitroX]
      #258536 - 03/01/15 07:01 PM

I have shot my friends 450/400 couple of times.



Rifle feels slim but compact and shoots straight.



Due to thick barrel walls feels nose heavy i.e. swings slow, but one can get used to. Triggers are crisp.



Sights are decent





Cocking feature is alright, you cock it on the way to the shoulder amd once you get used to it became second nature - much better than on Blaser S2, since the rifle stays cocked when reloading while S2 has to be cocked every time you open/close it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZfXpt8e9oU

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: 93mouse]
      #258540 - 03/01/15 08:06 PM

I bought one as a present for my old friend Ricus DeVilliers, a PH, in .500 NE. He carries it everywhere and is very happy with it, best

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93mouse
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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #258543 - 03/01/15 10:22 PM

Might be that barrels are made of the same contour regardless the caliber - therefore there is less "meat" on bigger calibers and balance gets better?

Nevertheless K-guns are sound piece of equipment - give me one anytime - FWIW Ganyana shoots one in .375 H&H FL

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93mouse
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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: GG375]
      #258544 - 03/01/15 10:30 PM

Quote:

My only complaint is that, when broken for reloading, the barrels tend to spring up a little so I have to sort of hold them down while I clear the empties and replace with live rounds.

Cheers.

GG



Might occur in any break rifle/gun - my Merkel used to behave the same until a trip to gunsmith - easy fix I was told...I bet guys here will put some light on this issue.

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: 93mouse]
      #258545 - 03/01/15 11:07 PM

One of the ones I used was a 9.3x74R and may have been a lighter model than the .375 and up model??? Often is the case. I did not notice the 9.3mm being muzzle heavy.

The same barrel profile for .375, .400, .470 etc is probably correct however. From memory and from the net, not handling.

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: NitroX]
      #258546 - 03/01/15 11:38 PM

John you are correct - K doubles divide into Classic DR (7 - 9.3mm) and Big Five DR (.375 up) - hence two barrel contours - similar to Merkels.

P.S. Oh yes - don't forget that latest models sport ejecors - not available on older models.

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: 93mouse]
      #258564 - 04/01/15 05:46 AM



Well, he used to. I believe it has gotten a new home.

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: Yochanan]
      #258624 - 05/01/15 11:52 AM

Hello

I have a 470 Grade II it's been to Africa 2 times.
Well built accurate gun.

Nitro

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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: nitro450exp]
      #258797 - 08/01/15 01:37 PM

When the K-rifles first came to the USA, we saw them at the DSC convention, where the importer had a booth. The two guys manning the booth had only a rudimentary understanding of how the rifle’s lock system worked, and we had less idea of how it worked. The only thing they knew was it was safe to carry loaded and had to be cocked with what is normally called a safety button. Beyond that they had no idea about anything else about the rifle other than it was priced at just under $10K USD.

This was not the booth guys fault. They simply had not been told exactly how the rifle’s locks worked. However this led most to fear this thing as an accident just waiting to happen. Add to that the first examples handled like a fence post, most did not like the palm swell pistol grip. People who are old time double rifle users are naturally leery of a rifle that is a vast departure from the long accepted way a double rifle works.

I must say our opinions were all wet on this rifle! We all assumed the rifle had to be re-cocked after every opening of the action after a re-load. Not a system I’d want in a close fight with a lion! That is not the case as the K-rifle, once cocked, shot, opened and reloaded the rifle re-cocks it’s self on opening just like most hammerless double rifles and is ready to fire as soon as closed.

Contrary to what some think, it does not have the same system as the Blaser S-2. The Blaser S-2 does have to be re-cocked if opened for any reason.

It took a while but most today have found the value in the system in the K-rifle, and
most today find the K-rifle a very safe rifle, and well made, and not the buggy-man it was first assumed to be.
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Re: Kreigoff Doubles [Re: gunbug]
      #266961 - 25/06/15 12:35 PM

I love mine in 470 Nitro

Its been to Africa 3 times with success on each trip.

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