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the .315 india
      #257494 - 04/12/14 06:08 AM

first time I see the ammo box of the .315 india
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q55ZxgzXu6E

damned, wish I could get such a box for the collection

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Re: the .315 india [Re: lancaster]
      #257497 - 04/12/14 09:18 AM

Not sure I want to be round that guy though with the way he swept the camera with the rifle.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: VonGruff]
      #257501 - 04/12/14 12:41 PM

Quote:

Not sure I want to be round that guy though with the way he swept the camera with the rifle.



What the heck... Lets just shoot into the air...
Less than courteous firearm handling.

What are the details on the .315 India? Looks like it could be like an 8X50 rimless or similar.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Huvius]
      #257502 - 04/12/14 01:32 PM

From the limited research I've done it is nothing more than the Hungarian 8x50r.
This was done to get around the 1907 ban on possesion of british military calibers (.303, .450 & .577) in India.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #257507 - 04/12/14 10:03 PM

The .315 IOF, see:
http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/ammunition/sc/14.htm
is nothing else than the old Austro-Hungarian 8x50R (rimmed) Mannlicher used by the A-H armies during WW1 in their Mannlicher straight pull rifles. Same 244 gr bullet weight, same ballistics like the 1925 Kynoch “8 mm (.315) Mannlicher” load.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: kuduae]
      #257510 - 05/12/14 12:14 AM

Peas and rice! He's a tad rough on that rifle lol. Smash it in, reef it back! Did it seems to have trouble with a case sticking?

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Ash]
      #257520 - 05/12/14 05:51 AM

Indian gun forums like http://www.thegungeek.com or http://indiansforguns.com are full of complains about the mediocre to lousy quality both of the Lee-Enfield actioned IOF sporting rifles made by both the Ishapore Rifle Factory and the Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli (OFT) and about the lacking reliability of the factory .315 IOF loads made by the Ordnance Factory Dumdum (OFDC) only. Note the IOF website http://ofbindia.gov.in/index.php?wh=Sporting%20Arms&lang=hi giving the “accuracy”standard of the .315 IOF sporting rifle as 4x4” at 100 yards!

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Re: the .315 india [Re: kuduae]
      #257521 - 05/12/14 06:17 AM

dont interest me
looks like a ten rounds box - I will pay 50 euro for a complete box + shipment

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Re: the .315 india [Re: lancaster]
      #257535 - 05/12/14 01:31 PM

To call Indian Ordnance Factory products crap, is to pay them a compliment. The ammo might be of interest to a collector to remind him what junk is. Apart from that, there's no earthly use for it.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #257536 - 05/12/14 03:11 PM

being a cartridge collector I have no interest in a shitstorm




























































































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Re: the .315 india [Re: lancaster]
      #257561 - 06/12/14 11:11 AM

Hmmm, in several of those photos above, the rifle appears to be at full cock when posing for the photo, presumably with a live round in the chamber! Lucky the SMLE safety is a good one, but we all know how that can end.....

Perhaps the rifle is at half-cock!

A bit uneasy over the assistant about to eat the muzzle of that Mannlicher, too.

I don't mean to be overly critical though, perhaps we are spoilt with the luxury of perfunctory firearm safety in the western world. Nevertheless, its great to see these photos of big cats taken in modern times, and to appreciate that the dangerous ones are still removed by honorable methods rather than a gut-full of sodium fluoroacetate.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Marrakai]
      #257575 - 06/12/14 07:13 PM

Talking about this one, Marrakai? If so, my first thought too.


Lancaster, as always, Loved the pics mate, thanks for posting them! Any info on the man?

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Ash]
      #257576 - 06/12/14 08:02 PM

posted here before:
"Lakhpat Singh Rawat is about 50 years old and could pass off for what he is by day, an unremarkable school teacher in the town of Garsain. Yet, he is a legend in the hills of Uttarakhand. Since 1992, he has killed 41 maneaters, all leopards plus a tiger. Even Jim Corbett’s record does not quite match up; between 1907 and 1938, the colonial-era’s legendary hunter gunned down 19 tigers and 14 leopards, a total of 33 maneaters. Rawat, already eight up, is not even done yet.
Each time a leopard kills a human, Rawat is one of two men summoned to rid the region of the menace. He operates with a team of three, including a representative of the state’s wildlife department to vouch for the place, time and circumstances under which the dangerous animal is done to death. Rawat boasts of a 100-per cent success rate. This is a claim that gets him plenty of public acclaim in a state that sees about 70 people fall victim to leopards every year"

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=227982&an=0&page=0#Post227982

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Re: the .315 india [Re: lancaster]
      #257605 - 07/12/14 07:26 PM

While Mr Rawat is obviously a talented hunter and doing a good service for the community, he has a long way to go to match Jim Corbett. Corbett generally saw leopards as relatively easily disposed of when he could track them down but the tigers he was called on to kill were an entirely different foe and Jim's record of 19 dispatched on his own without any backup will likely stand for a long time.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: eagle27]
      #257719 - 11/12/14 09:55 AM

As I recall the Mannlicher 8x50R was called .500/320ex in a Manton catalog.

Thanks for sharing the Photos. Wished I could go to India for a "Sport".

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Re: the .315 india [Re: rigbymauser]
      #259156 - 18/01/15 02:28 PM

Amazing pictures. Am learning to expect that around here. Thank you for posting. Regardless of comparisons, this man is good at what he does. I might add that, although not an expert myself, I wouldn't consider him over gunned.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Norman4]
      #274681 - 06/12/15 11:43 PM

Did you notice the left side of the magazine has a shallow curved lip which extends along much of it's edge, that must also barely clear the bolt? Notice the shine along the magazine edge from the bolt rubbing it during cycling. The right side of the magazine is pretty typical looking. I would assume this is a feeding improvement for this particular cartridge preventing the rear of the cartridge from popping out too fast. I once did something similar with a 444 converted No.4 Mk.1.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: 65West]
      #308613 - 03/12/17 03:20 AM

two years later still looking for such a box



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Re: the .315 india [Re: lancaster]
      #308629 - 03/12/17 03:49 PM

Some of those leopards are tiny and young. Noticed this before when I was asked to post some photos for an Indian member from another maneater hunter. If I remember correctly, I was later asked to pull some of the photos and replace them with others. The leopard(s) were often tiny. Do such young and immature leopards kill humans? Or are they shot by chance in the area?

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Re: the .315 india [Re: NitroX]
      #308634 - 03/12/17 05:19 PM

maybe shot beause they were notorious chicken thiefs and the local population make so much hassle because of them until the forest department set them on the death list

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Re: the .315 india [Re: lancaster]
      #308982 - 15/12/17 12:56 AM

Anybody notice the Mannlicher Schoenauer takedown rifle in several of the pictures?

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #309018 - 15/12/17 06:16 PM

Quote:

Anybody notice the Mannlicher Schoenauer takedown rifle in several of the pictures?



Time machine, anyone?

I must say, 'Johnny' got a much larger cat, and his M1910 isn't pointed at his buddy's melon.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #309021 - 15/12/17 11:00 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Anybody notice the Mannlicher Schoenauer takedown rifle in several of the pictures?



Time machine, anyone?

I must say, 'Johnny' got a much larger cat, and his M1910 isn't pointed at his buddy's melon.

Is it just me? In the lower picture, the guy on the right resembles Jim Corbett.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #309066 - 16/12/17 11:57 PM

"Is it just me? In the lower picture, the guy on the right resembles Jim Corbett."

If you're serious, please pursue.

The man in the center of the photograph is John F. Easton (my grandfather), an American buyer of rubber for Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company. The photo is circa 1932 (could be '30 or '31), perhaps in Burma.

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Re: the .315 india [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #309079 - 17/12/17 04:25 AM



Time machine, anyone?

I must say, 'Johnny' got a much larger cat, and his M1910 isn't pointed at his buddy's melon.



basics of making a trophy picture! maybe he was bigger or was not but allways deploy the cat in the foreground, the guys behind with some distance between and try to make the pic from the bottum up

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