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Before the Sullivan bashing starts, I'll say that Ive met Mark on a couple occasions and always found him to be a Gentleman and a passionate sportsman. I hope to hunt with him someday and enjoy his 'style'.

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He seems incredibly arrogant, but I have no problem with that.

After all, there aren't a lot of us really great competent guys around...

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I think the drama is way overblown, but it sells to those that like that sort of thing.

When you consider how many combat veterans we have in the USA, and I might add Canada as well, the "DEATH" motif with the dramatization of how awfully dangerous this all is seems to bring a lot of smirks from a lot of 19-25 year old men that have endured more danger in a morning than mark Sullivan has in all his hunts combined.

Mark has no "cause" to fight for other than fun and profit, and if it were anywhere near as dangerous as he likes people to believe, he would not be going back into the thick of it.

Do I know?
Yes, I have hunted dangerous game, and I have fought human enemies too.
There is a HUGH difference.

Nearly everyone I have ever known was hooked after their first DG hunt and could not wait to go back.
See if you can find a combat vet that fought a protracted battle and saw a large percentage of his buddies die or be carried away with large amounts of their bodies missing, who would just LOVE to go back and do it all again next week.

Dangerous game is dangerous. I don't say it's not, but so is skydiving, rock climbing and skiing.
In fact far more skiers die in their sport than hunters do. Same thing is true in dirt biking.
True, it’s a lot cheaper to ski than it is to hunt Cape Buffalo, so more people ski. The odds are not comparable one to one, but the idea I am writing about I still believe is sound.

I also used to sky dive a lot, (As well as Ice climb and Rock climb) but if I had believed my parachute was mis-packed I would not have jumped it.

If I knew that I had even a 50%-50% chance of getting seriously hurt of killed in ANY sport every time I did it, I don’t think I would ever do it---- and I don’t believe any other sane man would either, let along do it a lot.

Hunting D.G is done for fun and thrills. Not because you REALLY believe the animal is truly on a 50-50 basis with you in a life and death conflict.

Hunting is not combat, no matter how much Mark wants to make people think it is. Sports are sports, Skydiving or hunting buff.

Neither one can compare to advancing into an ambush of RPK, RPG and AK fire, or trapping a platoon of ters or cong who want to live as bad as you do.

In the USA alone we have probably 1/4 million men right now that have more understanding and experience with death and danger than Mr. Sullivan does on all his hunts combined. Mark is getting a lot of knowing grins that he seems to be unaware of.

His videos would be better if he didn't try to make people believe he was a hero instead of just a dedicated hunter.

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I just see it as a hunting video, nothing more.

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No offence to NE members but this is the usual mentality and difference between countries.

Aussies and Kiwis, some Southern Africans and maybe Brits:

"Oh that was fine, a good show, everything went smoothly without much drama ..."

"That was a fair show."

"That buffalo was little bit cheeky."

"Buffalo are easy and can be hunted with medium rifles. What do you need that cannon for?"

An Aussie book title: "A jerk at both ends", "Brother to the Dingo"

Some other cultures:

"That was the most dangerous situation I have been in my life. Most people could not have survived the death dealing situations, but my excellent training and experience, carried me through. It was literally death at my feet!"

"Africa's Black Death. Kills more people than gnats do every year. You need the biggest .600 Loud-n-Boomer shooting 2000 gr bullets at 3000 fps in a 5 lb rifle to take these furious beasts of hell!"

Book and video titles: "I've dealt with death my whole life", "Death Death and More Death, My Life", "Deader than Dead! But it is the dead ones than kill you!"


Ha ha, only generalisations and mostly in humour.

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No offence to NE members but this is the usual mentality and difference between countries.

Aussies and Kiwis, some Southern Africans and maybe Brits:

"Oh that was fine, a good show, everything went smoothly without much drama ..."

"That was a fair show."

"That buffalo was little bit cheeky."

"Buffalo are easy and can be hunted with medium rifles. What do you need that cannon for?"

An Aussie book title: "A jerk at both ends", "Brother to the Dingo"

Some other cultures:

"That was the most dangerous situation I have been in my life. Most people could not have survived the death dealing situations, but my excellent training and experience, carried me through. It was literally death at my feet!"

"Africa's Black Death. Kills more people than gnats do every year. You need the biggest .600 Loud-n-Boomer shooting 2000 gr bullets at 3000 fps in a 5 lb rifle to take these furious beasts of hell!"

Book and video titles: "I've dealt with death my whole life", "Death Death and More Death, My Life", "Deader than Dead! But it is the dead ones than kill you!"


Ha ha, only generalisations and mostly in humour.

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"the usual mentality and difference between countries" and "Ha ha"? Still nice to know your general opinion about Americans based on the above and your previous post. Some minor validity but mostly based on what you choose to see vs. the reality of the vast majority, who wouldn't be caught dead promoting themselves or in company with the tacti-cool ass hats. You must choose to watch/read a lot of US-based bad programming and "literature". Good on you.

I met an Aussie a few weeks ago who was very unusual. He didn't start lambasting American and Americans until 10 minutes into his conversation instead of the usual 5.

Moving on.

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I'll send you a "Hurt Feelings Report" post haste ...

Most guys on here and my American friends know how I think and the respect I have for their country and them.

Now I must go and look for some posts on here offensive to Australians so I can have a huffie too and storm off too. That French guy larcher is always a good place to start if one wants to get insulted.

A sense of humour is also sometimes a cultural difference, though almost all NE guys that stick around have a good one. And probably need one.


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No offence to NE members but this is the usual mentality and difference between countries.

Aussies and Kiwis, some Southern Africans and maybe Brits:

"Oh that was fine, a good show, everything went smoothly without much drama ..."

"That was a fair show."

"That buffalo was little bit cheeky."

"Buffalo are easy and can be hunted with medium rifles. What do you need that cannon for?"

An Aussie book title: "A jerk at both ends", "Brother to the Dingo"

Some other cultures:

"That was the most dangerous situation I have been in my life. Most people could not have survived the death dealing situations, but my excellent training and experience, carried me through. It was literally death at my feet!"

"Africa's Black Death. Kills more people than gnats do every year. You need the biggest .600 Loud-n-Boomer shooting 2000 gr bullets at 3000 fps in a 5 lb rifle to take these furious beasts of hell!"

Book and video titles: "I've dealt with death my whole life", "Death Death and More Death, My Life", "Deader than Dead! But it is the dead ones than kill you!"


Ha ha, only generalisations and mostly in humour.

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"the usual mentality and difference between countries" and "Ha ha"? Still nice to know your general opinion about Americans based on the above and your previous post. Some minor validity but mostly based on what you choose to see vs. the reality of the vast majority, who wouldn't be caught dead promoting themselves or in company with the tacti-cool ass hats. You must choose to watch/read a lot of US-based bad programming and "literature". Good on you.

I met an Aussie a few weeks ago who was very unusual. He didn't start lambasting American and Americans until 10 minutes into his conversation instead of the usual 5.

Moving on.

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I'll send you a "Hurt Feelings Report" post haste ...

Most guys on here and my American friends know how I think and the respect I have for their country and them.

Now I must go and look for some posts on here offensive to Australians so I can have a huffie too and storm off too. That French guy larcher is always a good place to start if one wants to get insulted.

A sense of humour is also sometimes a cultural difference, though almost all NE guys that stick around have a good one. And probably need one.

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The guy above sounds like he missed taking his estrogen shot that morning..
Can't please everyone...

Dang--am I agreeing with you too much???


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No offence to NE members but this is the usual mentality and difference between countries.

Aussies and Kiwis, some Southern Africans and maybe Brits:

"Oh that was fine, a good show, everything went smoothly without much drama ..."

"That was a fair show."

"That buffalo was little bit cheeky."

"Buffalo are easy and can be hunted with medium rifles. What do you need that cannon for?"

An Aussie book title: "A jerk at both ends", "Brother to the Dingo"

Some other cultures:

"That was the most dangerous situation I have been in my life. Most people could not have survived the death dealing situations, but my excellent training and experience, carried me through. It was literally death at my feet!"

"Africa's Black Death. Kills more people than gnats do every year. You need the biggest .600 Loud-n-Boomer shooting 2000 gr bullets at 3000 fps in a 5 lb rifle to take these furious beasts of hell!"

Book and video titles: "I've dealt with death my whole life", "Death Death and More Death, My Life", "Deader than Dead! But it is the dead ones than kill you!"


Ha ha, only generalisations and mostly in humour.

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"the usual mentality and difference between countries" and "Ha ha"? Still nice to know your general opinion about Americans based on the above and your previous post. Some minor validity but mostly based on what you choose to see vs. the reality of the vast majority, who wouldn't be caught dead promoting themselves or in company with the tacti-cool ass hats. You must choose to watch/read a lot of US-based bad programming and "literature". Good on you.

I met an Aussie a few weeks ago who was very unusual. He didn't start lambasting American and Americans until 10 minutes into his conversation instead of the usual 5.

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So wrong.

There aren't even enough Aussies to FORM a "general opinion"!
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I know, John, I know, there aren't enough Idahoans to form a "PRIVATE opinion"!



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Playing up the danger factor may be a great tool for making money, but theres a certain level of douche-bag-esqueness that goes along with it, and I'm disappointed that all Americans are automatically tarred with the same brush.

People may be quick to jump to the man's defense on a personal level, but his character is evidenced by the fact that this type of production is nevertheless ok with him because it makes money.

In the same way I think Ivan Carter has ruined the "Tracks Across Africa" show, which I thought Craig Boddington always kept very refined and even elegant.

I don't always enjoy Boddington's writing because he often doesn't seem to voice any real opinions, but the show was presented in a quiet and tasteful manner, with a sprinkling of African music and sounds of the bush.

Now it's completely whored-up with flashy camera angles and intense colors and overly-dramatic music.

So if all Americans (and eventually all hunters) get typecast like these guys present what hunting is to the world, then shame on us for letting it happen.

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Playing up the danger factor may be a great tool for making money, but theres a certain level of douche-bag-esqueness that goes along with it, and I'm disappointed that all Americans are automatically tarred with the same brush.

People may be quick to jump to the man's defense on a personal level, but his character is evidenced by the fact that this type of production is nevertheless ok with him because it makes money.

In the same way I think Ivan Carter has ruined the "Tracks Across Africa" show, which I thought Craig Boddington always kept very refined and even elegant.

I don't always enjoy Boddington's writing because he often doesn't seem to voice any real opinions, but the show was presented in a quiet and tasteful manner, with a sprinkling of African music and sounds of the bush.

Now it's completely whored-up with flashy camera angles and intense colors and overly-dramatic music.

So if all Americans (and eventually all hunters) get typecast like these guys present what hunting is to the world, then shame on us for letting it happen.

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"All Americans" definitely not.

No idea about Ivan Carter's "Tracks Across Africa" as we don't get any real hunting on TV in Australia. Never seen it. Have a smattering of Sullivan's older videos, some Boddington and a variety of others from many countries. Hardly ever watch a hunting video though.

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Playing up the danger factor may be a great tool for making money, but theres a certain level of douche-bag-esqueness that goes along with it, and I'm disappointed that all Americans are automatically tarred with the same brush.

People may be quick to jump to the man's defense on a personal level, but his character is evidenced by the fact that this type of production is nevertheless ok with him because it makes money.

In the same way I think Ivan Carter has ruined the "Tracks Across Africa" show, which I thought Craig Boddington always kept very refined and even elegant.

I don't always enjoy Boddington's writing because he often doesn't seem to voice any real opinions, but the show was presented in a quiet and tasteful manner, with a sprinkling of African music and sounds of the bush.

Now it's completely whored-up with flashy camera angles and intense colors and overly-dramatic music.

So if all Americans (and eventually all hunters) get typecast like these guys present what hunting is to the world, then shame on us for letting it happen.

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OK, my comments may have been a little offensive ... but it is true marketing in the USA often works when it has a high perceived danger factor inherent.

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No offense taken, but Steve Irwin [rest in peace] played this card as well.

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