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european vintage pics
      #251578 - 05/08/14 08:07 PM

need another thread for this

in the Stodertal/Austria
http://stodertalfreunde.blogspot.de/2013/01/von-der-jagd-im-stodertal.html

Aufbruch zur Jagd des Herzogs von Württemberg am 10.10.1886

Jäger und Treiber


Herzog Philipp von Württemberg - links im Bild - mit Jagdgästen 4.10.1903

Die Strecke. Rechts im Bild Herzog Philipp von Württemberg am 10.10.1886

König Wilhelm II von Württemberg am 1.10.1891 auf der Salmeralm
von 1891 bis 1918 war er der letzte König von Württember

Friedrich-Wend und Maria, Fürst und Fürstin zu Eulenburg-Hertefeld,
Graf von Sandels ca. 1955



Jagdgesellschaft ca.1930



scotland post war
http://pages.rapha.cc/stories/tweed-the-original-performance-fabric





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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #251588 - 05/08/14 10:35 PM

Love the vintage photos, thanks for sharing.

Would like to know the story (or some detail) behind the pics if anyone can help please post.

Enjoy observing the hunting traditions of other cultures around the globe.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: Michael]
      #251596 - 06/08/14 01:34 AM

Great to see these pics!

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: Sville]
      #251604 - 06/08/14 07:34 AM

Thanks for Sharing Lancaster. Your posts is always of interest..

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: rigbymauser]
      #253542 - 15/09/14 12:06 AM



Thank you so much for sharing.
I only wish for more

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: vegard_dino]
      #253544 - 15/09/14 12:18 AM

Thanks lancaster!!

2 scoped rifles and lots of binocs in the Jagdgesellschaft ca.1930 bild. Very interesting.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: 9.3x57]
      #253549 - 15/09/14 09:34 AM

Great old pics.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #253551 - 15/09/14 12:49 PM

How Cool!

Dig the straight-wrist double rifles.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: tinker]
      #253570 - 16/09/14 03:42 AM

Excellent and interesting photos.

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      #253732 - 19/09/14 06:03 PM


Circa 1930, in our beloved Pyrenean Mountains, in Val d’Aran.
One isard (Rupicapra Pyreneica), one bear and one wild boar.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: DORLEAC]
      #253733 - 19/09/14 06:10 PM

Keep them coming, very interesting!

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: DORLEAC]
      #253742 - 19/09/14 11:42 PM

great pic Dorlac, a mix you dont see every day

in the great war
iirc, in france




Waldi(left side) goes to war






strange trench pic, maybe he was in war with the ducks next lake



france 1918



in Białowieża http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82owie%C5%BCa_National_Park
bison and wild boar


Edited by lancaster (19/09/14 11:57 PM)

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #253746 - 20/09/14 03:15 AM

Very interesting, guys!

Dorleac, the guns in the pic there indicates close range shooting regardless of the game. Very interesting.

lanc; A Euro bison, wow. Must be from eastern Poland?

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: 9.3x57]
      #253748 - 20/09/14 03:28 AM

So great - keep it coming!

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: 9.3x57]
      #253751 - 20/09/14 03:48 AM

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lanc; A Euro bison, wow. Must be from eastern Poland?



of course, its in the Bialowiezer Heide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82owie%C5%BCa_National_Park



Noah's Ark for the european bison

and now something completly different
Britain


A shooting party and gun-dogs with their haul at the Glen Estate in the Scottish Borders in 1907.
http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/index.php?optio...amp;imageId=495



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUuui-CSx0U/T4...+party_mhsp.jpg


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between 1930 and 1938 on a german manor of the famous von Kleist Family, Kieckow in the lost east












http://www.v-kleist.com/Kieckow/kieckow_jagd.htm

Edited by lancaster (21/09/14 12:24 AM)

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #253969 - 24/09/14 12:04 PM

bear shoot in the carpathians 1917


this pic is probably made in 1890s, the hunter in the middle have a Mauser 71 hunting rifle



first time I see such a single shoot on a period pic

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #253970 - 24/09/14 12:14 PM

Another great addition. Thanks lanc!

I especially like the little bear pic.

I always wonder what happened to the trophies...

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      #253971 - 24/09/14 12:25 PM

good question
had the hunter the time(in war) to handle the skin? I see a wolf tropie with head in the 1990s an older woman had have from her father who was a forester and shoot it in russia in WW 2. maybe the next generation trash this old stuff.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #253973 - 24/09/14 03:05 PM

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this pic is probably made in 1890s, the hunter in the middle have a Mauser 71 hunting rifle




And the fellow to his right with the pinfire double rifle!

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: tinker]
      #253980 - 24/09/14 04:25 PM

History of great hunting!

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: Sville]
      #254018 - 25/09/14 06:03 AM

A little OT but sometimes is quite difficult to find when foto has taken; is it from 1960´s or 2010´s as my friend asked when he send me this foto:



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Re: european vintage pics [Re: Igorrock]
      #254021 - 25/09/14 07:49 AM

Sorry igorrock, but the goatie and the pants and ammo pouches {they didn't surplus them out then I don't think... {?}} give it away...



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      #254022 - 25/09/14 07:50 AM

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A little OT but sometimes is quite difficult to find when foto has taken; is it from 1960´s or 2010´s as my friend asked when he send me this foto:





Sorry igorrock, but the goatie and the pants and ammo pouches {they didn't surplus them out then I don't think... {?}} give it away...



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Re: european vintage pics [Re: 9.3x57]
      #254036 - 25/09/14 04:04 PM

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give it away...


I´m not so sure; I have personally seen many times those kind of beard and moustaches in the end of 1960`s so determining correct period with them is quite difficult. First army surplus shops came here in Helsinki in same time and those rain legs you could see in fotos taken before wartime, of course mostly dressed on fishermen.

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      #259086 - 16/01/15 05:49 PM

moose hunting in norway

for make it easy they hunt on a taxidermied moose whats a very common method in norway



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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #259087 - 16/01/15 06:10 PM

LoL LoL now that was funny, do you have some thing against Norway ?

The chap above looks to have a Flax Kit bag that our natives make & use here in NZ !

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A little OT but sometimes is quite difficult to find when foto has taken; is it from 1960´s or 2010´s as my friend asked when he send me this foto:





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      #259089 - 16/01/15 07:39 PM

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LoL LoL now that was funny, do you have some thing against Norway ?



HEAVEN NO, what do you believe

hunting taxidermied moose is a serious sport in norway and in fact they are realy fanatics about this. no norwegian ever shoot a living moose not even seen one because they are all dedicated long sleeper. they buy the taxidermied moose by the swedes who telling them that this is what the moose are for large sums of petrodollars.
the swedes also never shoot a moose but some of them speaking latin whats not known in norway and they dont sleep soooo long. so the swedes learned by reading Julius Caesars book "Commentarii de Bello Gallico" the moose have no knee's and so slepping by lean against a tree and you can catch them by notch this sleeping tree so it broke when the moose comes for sleeping. without knees the moose once on the ground can't move away something the swedes knowing for sure from own experience when sleeping while drunk and lean against a tree than fall to the ground and being not able to move until the next morning. the finns also learned this from the swedes who have this as a trade secret but the finns offered the cheap wodka they only use for cleaning car windows and such stuff and the swedes could not resist.
the norwegian also asked the finns for taxidermied moose but the finns need them all for selling as soveniers to tourists and its very common to see familys coming back from finnland with one ot two bull moose in the baggage.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #259090 - 16/01/15 07:55 PM

Now you have me rolling on the ground LoL !

I was meaning this bit to !

"Norwegian hunter misses moose, shoots man on toilet"

This guy was a short sleeper Eh ?

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: Sarg]
      #259092 - 16/01/15 09:38 PM

he, I am serious
this is not some bloody joke
but see for yourself
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...the-toilet.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...et-8902585.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/hunter-shoot-moose-hits-man-sitting-toilet-article-1.1498811

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #259095 - 16/01/15 11:08 PM

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUuui-CSx0U/T4...+party_mhsp.jpg


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I don't think I would like to be a member of a group which includes the three formidable looking ladies seated in the front row. Especially the one with the shotgun.


Why is the gentleman in the front row wearing a straw boater (Kreissäge)? Doesn't he know that they're prohibited after Labour Day?

Edited by xausa (16/01/15 11:15 PM)

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      #259107 - 17/01/15 04:35 AM

"Why is the gentleman in the front row wearing a straw boater (Kreissäge)? Doesn't he know that they're prohibited after Labour Day?"

why? it can be hot then like in midsummer

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #259110 - 17/01/15 08:38 AM

Good pictures fellas, keep them coming.

Remind me not to go hunting in Norway

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      #259112 - 17/01/15 09:00 AM

Quote:

"Why is the gentleman in the front row wearing a straw boater (Kreissäge)? Doesn't he know that they're prohibited after Labour Day?"

why? it can be hot then like in midsummer



Our Labor (Labour) Day is the first Monday in September, not in midsummer.

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      #259124 - 17/01/15 07:03 PM

so because of this you think now you can't trust him with the safety rules when he get a gun in his hands?

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      #259389 - 24/01/15 05:41 AM

germany before the great war







http://www.ljv-nrw.de/media/1326144782_jagd_vor_wk1_2.jpg

postcards from the International Hunting Exhibition Berlin 1937
















the goods old times...
imagine you show a taxidermied panda on a hunting exhibition today


while looking for informations about the 8x58RD I stumble about some pics from sweden

1910, rolling blocks



http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...unda_h%C3%A4rad,_Julita_socken,_S%C3%B6dermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040972.jpg


1928, on the left a Husqvarna hammer gun, on the right a M 88 and a rolling block original military stock


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...._Bodums_socken,_%C3%85ngermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040969.jpg


1928



http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...ed_endast_skinn,_huvud_och_ben_kvar._Bodums_socken,_%C3%85ngermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040973.jpg


1950s


1971


1962









1907, clearly to the see the rolling block stutzen



1940s











http://www.sikasbulletinen.se/JaktFiske.html


I think post war, see Husqvarna M 46 and the old rollling blocks in 8x58RD



http://www.lugne.se/ovrigt/f191.htm


the King 1928



http://www.svt.se/oppet-arkiv-pub/cachab...rge/algjakt-jpg


1956



http://halsinglandsmuseum.se/veta-mer/manadens-bild/arkiv-manadens-bild/




http://www.sormlandsmuseum.se/Sormlandsm...tt/Fahuset/--2/

between 1950 and 1958













https://logdeavvo.wordpress.com/galleri-2/galleri/algjakt/algjakt-tidigare-an-1970/

1949


http://www.arnesbilder.se/Gamla%20Boo-Hjortkvarn/aelgjakt,Knutstorp-49.htm

1936

http://www.varnamonyheter.se/sites/default/files/old_vn/1821591_0.jpg

post war



http://www.paharova.com/webb28/bild1/jakten.gif

post war

http://www.raan.nu/imgext/39a7c280-64ee-4186-9b3e-4c53535c49f8.jpg




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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #259456 - 26/01/15 12:37 AM

I could sit here with a cup of tea looking at these pictures all day. Reminds me of what it used to be like up here back in the day before we were discovered. The characters look like any one of my old neighbors. Thank you for posting. I love this site. Norman4

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #259472 - 26/01/15 08:21 AM

Quote:

germany before the great war







http://www.ljv-nrw.de/media/1326144782_jagd_vor_wk1_2.jpg

postcards from the International Hunting Exhibition Berlin 1937
















the goods old times...
imagine you show a taxidermied panda on a hunting exhibition today


while looking for informations about the 8x58RD I stumble about some pics from sweden

1910, rolling blocks



http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...unda_h%C3%A4rad,_Julita_socken,_S%C3%B6dermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040972.jpg


1928, on the left a Husqvarna hammer gun, on the right a M 88 and a rolling block original military stock


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...._Bodums_socken,_%C3%85ngermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040969.jpg


1928



http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...ed_endast_skinn,_huvud_och_ben_kvar._Bodums_socken,_%C3%85ngermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040973.jpg


1950s


1971


1962









1907, clearly to the see the rolling block stutzen



1940s











http://www.sikasbulletinen.se/JaktFiske.html


I think post war, see Husqvarna M 46 and the old rollling blocks in 8x58RD



http://www.lugne.se/ovrigt/f191.htm


the King 1928



http://www.svt.se/oppet-arkiv-pub/cachab...rge/algjakt-jpg


1956



http://halsinglandsmuseum.se/veta-mer/manadens-bild/arkiv-manadens-bild/




http://www.sormlandsmuseum.se/Sormlandsm...tt/Fahuset/--2/

between 1950 and 1958













https://logdeavvo.wordpress.com/galleri-2/galleri/algjakt/algjakt-tidigare-an-1970/

1949


http://www.arnesbilder.se/Gamla%20Boo-Hjortkvarn/aelgjakt,Knutstorp-49.htm

1936

http://www.varnamonyheter.se/sites/default/files/old_vn/1821591_0.jpg

post war



http://www.paharova.com/webb28/bild1/jakten.gif

post war

http://www.raan.nu/imgext/39a7c280-64ee-4186-9b3e-4c53535c49f8.jpg






I see these hunters are shooting for the Norweigian Taxidermist Moose hunting trade, even a few skinned out ready for the taxidermist !

Great photos, lots of cool pics taken back in the day, those Lions stalking some thing would be hard to photograph now days & all those Keiler on the steps in town, would start a riot today !

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: Sarg]
      #259476 - 26/01/15 12:07 PM

Awesome photos and a very good thread!

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      #259488 - 26/01/15 07:32 PM




Great photos, lots of cool pics taken back in the day, those Lions stalking some thing would be hard to photograph now days & all those Keiler on the steps in town, would start a riot today !



the Lions are painted by Richard Friese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Friese
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his polar bears are fascinating because of the view from above like if he had a 21. century RC drohne than



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      #259489 - 26/01/15 08:43 PM

Wow ! He was a awesome painter, I think I have seen the Rein Deer one some where before, but not the rest .

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      #259503 - 27/01/15 05:35 AM

Very nice. Very classic look.

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      #259518 - 27/01/15 01:21 PM

Love the photos, thanks for posting.

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      #259531 - 28/01/15 12:15 AM

It´s fantastic to see these old photos. /Staffan

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      #259574 - 28/01/15 06:05 PM

similar group from finland

http://files.kotisivukone.com/vipustin.k...metsstjt1-6.jpg
two mosin, a mauser and rolling block it seems

1958






http://www.koittankoskenmetsastysseura.net/Historia.htm




http://www.koskenkylanriistapojat.org/Kuvat/Kaato%20vanha.jpg

bear, finland

http://wwww.jns.fi/museokoulu/kokokuva/elinkeinot/kuvat/kaataja.jpg


"the slayer of lichtenmoor" a big male wolf making it to lower saxony in germany because of the chaos of WW2 and the years after
claimed to have killed 100 sheeps and 65 cattle but a good part may be ended illegal butchered and blamed on the beast. in his honour they made the biggest driven hunt ever in lover saxony with 1500 beater and 70 hunter. shoot by the farmer Hermann Gaatz two months later the pics were made secretly against the order of the british occupying forces.










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      #260819 - 20/02/15 10:11 PM

france 1930
http://suzanne.granger.free.fr/Sanglier1930.html



chamois val d'Aran french/spanish border



http://www.algeriepyrenees.com/article-2...s-42489388.html

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      #263038 - 02/04/15 02:09 PM

italia

image removed on request of owner
http://www.avveduto.com/eritrea/1953-Piero-caccia.jpg




http://www.blogmamma.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cacciatori.jpg

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      #263045 - 02/04/15 05:41 PM

coming back to Richard Friese I find a pic showing him 1907 siting on a elk in his east prussian home




Friese" east prussian elk"



bonus material for our friends from finland, Mannerheim with a 14 pointer 1935 in east prussia


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      #263203 - 07/04/15 04:56 AM



wild boar hunt Rossgassmoos, Willisau/ Switzerland 1946 or 1947
https://wbannodazumal.wordpress.com/2013/11/


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chamois hunter/Switzerland with a nice veterli sporter
https://www.ricardo.ch/usability/ch/viewitem.aspx?articlenr=738639692&rewrite=0

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the last bear shot in Switzerland 1904
http://static.nzz.ch/files/3/7/5/B%C3%BCndner+B%C3%A4ren_1.18015375.pdf

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      #263206 - 07/04/15 07:07 AM

Thanks for showing the shooting pics a true snapshot of hunting history,

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      #264181 - 26/04/15 01:14 AM

think its greenland 1924

https://ullijseisbaeren.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/foto-inuit-1924.jpg

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      #264568 - 05/05/15 04:47 AM

1911, Karel Mollen in Valkenswaard, Netherlands






living 1854 to 1935 he is called europes last falconer
http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/?/nl/items/SFA03:SFA022814950



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      #264913 - 13/05/15 09:14 PM

That guy with the polar bear using the bow..Wow! But looks like his aim may need some improvement (back leg)

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      #265038 - 16/05/15 02:35 PM

have more polar beers for you


Wilhelm Dege, leader of the "Operation Haudegen" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Haudegen


sailors of U 307 with a polar bear shoot on Svalbard september 1944



a member of "Haudegen" with a reindeer shoot on Svalbard, probably Rudolph



members of "Haudegen" had this hunting guns on Svalbard

1 Rifle Mauser Kaliber 8 × 57 IS
1 Drilling with scope Fa. Sauer & Sohn Kaliber 9,3 × 74R 16/70
1 Double Gun Fa. Sauer & Sohn
1 22. Rimfire Rifle

the english wikipedia site is wrong, Haudegen was allways in contact with the british forces in Norway after the war and continued to radio weather data daily until they were pick up by the norwegian sealer boat "Blaasel".

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      #265402 - 22/05/15 09:13 PM

norway and svalbard

http://flickrhivemind.net/flickr_hvmnd.c...nput=v%C3%A5pen


















































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      #265463 - 24/05/15 11:06 AM

Some good guns in that lot! A Mannlicher Schoenauer, Savage 99, pinfire (or is it percussion?) shotgun (i think?) and a nice mauser sporter

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      #265471 - 24/05/15 05:56 PM

you mean this pic of a laplander?



think its a percussion muzzle loader

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      #265518 - 25/05/15 06:18 PM


Pyrenean isard hunting in the sixties.



Dr Marcel Couturier, the greatest chamois hunter of the twentieth century



Her Doctor Ernst Leitz (of Leica fame), between WW.





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      #265524 - 25/05/15 10:14 PM

thanks. interesting pics
I notice the mas 36 in 7x57 or 7x54





did you know how long the original 7x57 Mas was legal in france? it seems this model is very hard to find today.

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      #265541 - 26/05/15 07:29 AM


It's a 7x54 MAS Fournier.
Mr. Fournier, at Hery sur Alby, Haute-Savoie, was a National 300m shooter and a gunsmith who make a job in rebarelling MAS 36 in 7mm/284" and chambering them for his own wildcat, the 7x54 Fournier that was a light modification of the 7,5x54 original round.
The 7x57, as all other army cartridges (30-06, 8x57, 6,5x54, 303...) is legal in France from September 2013. Now, the only forbidden cartridges are the .233 NATO, the 7,62x39, the .50 and 13mm Russian.

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      #265553 - 26/05/15 01:30 PM

have heard the 7x57 Mauser was for some years legal after the war and that was the reason MAS made the 7mm barrels for this round. must have been a short period maybe because the bureaucracy made a mistake. Fournier rechamber rifles original made by Mas and build new ones from the stock he got from this maker but all were 7x57 in the beginning so there must have been a reason beside of selling it in the colonys were it was allways a legal hunting cartridge.
have heard at least of one rifle still in the original 7mm mauser chamber so they exist.

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      #265565 - 26/05/15 05:59 PM

Lancaster,
You are right, seems these calibers were “free” until 1956.
Like you I have heard about 7x57 MAS rifles and I remind, when I was a boy (a long time ago…) dreaming on a catalog from MAS with pictures of the MAS36 commercial versions offered in 7x57, 8x60S and 10,75x68.

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      #265581 - 27/05/15 02:57 AM

was probably this page you were daydreaming



the 10,75x68 Mas got my attention some years ago so I am working as a truffel pig. if you dont have seen this I have a little thread and is maybe the best about this rifles you find in the net.
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Lancaster, i was referring to this image



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      #265851 - 03/06/15 04:22 AM

Quote:

moose hunting in norway

for make it easy they hunt on a taxidermied moose whats a very common method in norway





Looks like the same moose as the one they hauled in front of HMS The King of Sweeden some years ago.Done by one of their two WW2 heros....LOL

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      #267410 - 06/07/15 12:05 AM

Great series of pix!

What is the guy sitting above in the 3rd pic?

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      #267413 - 06/07/15 01:58 AM

"Great series of pix! "

different stuff but I think the Kaiser and Hermann Göring are easy to spot


not wolf, he is waiting for fox

siting on a hunting stick, a walking stick with a seat



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      #269062 - 08/08/15 09:54 PM

today is world cats day and so I stumple over the iberian lynx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_lynx




the iberian lynx is called in german "Pardelluchs" and the "pardel" is the same like in Leopard or Gepard (german name for Cheetah) coming from the old greek pàrdos the name of the persian provins Parsis, today Fars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_Province
were such spooted cats were common in the ancient world.
the iberian lynx was probably a rare bycatch on driven hunts in the old days













http://www.cuadernosdecampo.es/Website/FichasOrganismos/FichaOrganismo.aspx?keyIDOrganismo=421


you find the iberian lynx also on one of my favourite drawings, Francisco de Goyas capriccio no. 43 "the sleep of reason produce monsters" what you can also translate as "the dream of the reason produce monsters" what give it a complete different turn


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      #269083 - 09/08/15 02:16 PM

russia





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      #269144 - 11/08/15 07:56 PM

Love these pics. So interesting to see the rifles, clothes, dogs and the animals. That pic with the Bear who is sitting in the middle among all men is fantastic!

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      #271808 - 17/10/15 03:42 PM

I notice it years ago that there is a hound on the painting "Summer Evening at Skagen Beach – The Artist and his Wife" by P.S. Krøyer




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Evening_at_Skagen_Beach_%E2%80%93_The_Artist_and_his_Wife

and unlike all modern peace loving, crack smocking and gun hating artist colony's the so called Skagen painter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skagen_Painters
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      #275985 - 02/01/16 10:28 PM

old german pics


contol the hunting licence




http://www.medienzentrum-osnabrueck.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/139.png



https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/t...46837/image.jpg



http://www.detmold-bildarchiv.de/uploads/pics/Fuerst_Leopold_nach_erfolgreicher_Jagd.jpg



http://www.ebay.at/itm/Der-Kaiser-auf-Ja...wMAAOSwSdZWd8Uq



http://www.demokratie-goettingen.de/blog/der-rote-welfe





http://www.ebay.at/itm/Prinz-Heinrich-v-...uEAAOSwAKxWUvrJ





https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/binary/PIBVTTR2EOTONQOHUUXTIPGJV63NRGQW/full/1.jpg




the kaiser with franz ferdinand




http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/...orbereitung.jpg
austria






http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/muenc...irsch-1.2047309

france



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      #276004 - 03/01/16 06:56 AM

Fantastic array of old time photos.

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      #278910 - 07/03/16 02:07 AM

Norway http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/05/88/4c/d0/norsk-skogmuseum.jpg



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Enjoyed seeing the great many photos and scans posted. Haven't seen the last lot of lancaster posts before. Very interesting to see these. Will have to have a more careful re-look at them.

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      #278942 - 08/03/16 09:34 AM

I find the old photos fascinating. Looking back at the world as it was.

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      #279203 - 13/03/16 06:49 AM

http://avax.news/disgusting/Hunting_Fishing_2.html

http://avax.news/sad/Hunting_Fishing.html

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      #289606 - 30/10/16 03:52 PM

germany 1920s/30s

http://www.alt-breitscheid.de/wald-jagd-1.htm
















https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._A._Andr%C3%A9e%27s_Arctic_Balloon_Expedition_of_1897


Frænkel (left) and Strindberg with the first polar bear shot by the explorers.

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      #291537 - 06/12/16 08:49 PM

britain





http://www.broadlandmemories.co.uk/1900to1949gallery7.html









https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Snowden_Slights_side_view_of_wildfowler_YORYM-S12.jpg




http://65.media.tumblr.com/f5d3ddfdaa5e4cd974951f40cd886433/tumblr_mmr5hdXmPA1qb76pto1_500.jpg




old timer with muzzle loader gun and puntgun



http://www.killountain.co.uk/index.php?page=vintage-photos

another muzzle loader punt gun



https://www.herewardbooks.co.uk/assets/books/7174_1-m.jpg




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3702/10365464244_2cc8f99843.jpg

this must be a breech loader



http://chichesterwildfowlers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Screen-Shot-2015-06-22-at-12.32.09.png

finnland

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Our member, and occasionally present member, ErikD had a relative who was an explorer in Greenland in the past, if I remember correctly. It is a pity there are probably no photographs available (?). I do remember some knives though arranged on a fireplace shelf which was the explorers.

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probably WW 2, looks like a russian semi auto rifle



the Kaiser again



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the great war against wild boars



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That is a proper pig.

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They are 'some' distance behind it, but yes - that is a still a strapping big hog.

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the great war against snipes







because of the centenary you see now a lot pics from then

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Snipers?

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Lovely pictures, thanks for sharing.
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Fascinating pictures and wonderful to view. I see we even got a little cheesecake from lancaster.

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      #305888 - 01/10/17 11:04 PM

spain




germany
















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in our serial "the great war against"


the great war against foxes








and the great war against gray seals






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no, snipes but ducks too to be exactly





I was making a joke. As snipes are almost always shot with shotguns, I wonder if the term "snipers" comes not from shooting an accurate rifle at a target a long way away, but instead from the skilled shotgunner shooting a fast flying snipe?

The only snipe, I have seen when shooting, was a woodcock flying through the forest at tremendous speed, compared to pheasant, when pheasant shooting in England. I had started to swing on it and lining it up, when someone yelled "don't shoot!" and then someone else yelled "shoot" but my opportunity had passed in that second or two.

Once upon a time snipe, Japanese and Manchurian Snipe could be hunted and shot in Victoria, before some protection of migratory birds act was passed and some international treaty closing down that legal season for ever in Australia. A challenging shooting sport for those who could do it.

So, would I be a "goose" if I started telling good shotgunners, that they are "a hell of a sniper"! For good shotgunning?

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The great war against foxes and seals!

Ha ha. Thanks. Always enjoy your postings of historical European hunting and shooting pictures.

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your obident servant

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the famous finnish sniper Simo Häyhä
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5148231/How-five-foot-farmer-deadliest-sniper-history.html



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      #309390 - 24/12/17 02:47 AM

its a familiar pic but newly colourized



probably somewhere between svalbard and murmansk

and I am sure the icebear was shot with the 98k, submachine gun dont have a magazine





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Quote:

its a familiar pic but newly colourized



probably somewhere between svalbard and murmansk

and I am sure the icebear was shot with the 98k, submachine gun dont have a magazine






Would like to go to Svalbard one day. Probably never will ...

BTW just finished watching the Second season of "Fortitude" a fictional series set in Svalbard, but never called that. Filmed in much warmer Iceland ...


Lancaster, can you tell me. In a fictional movies about WW2, I noticed the Allied/USA maps coloured Iceland as "NAZI" or German held. Was this ever the case? I though Iceland was part of the British/USA defence against U-boots lines of defence?

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      #309409 - 24/12/17 06:22 AM

up to the war iceland war connected with denmark in personal union but in 1941 it was invaded and occupied by british troops. the british later give it to the united states and I think it was the american "influence" iceland became a republic in 1944. without the war iceland would be a part of denmark today like ireland, finland and so on would be parts of bigger empires

war is the father of all things

actually its very easy today to fly from stavanger/ norway to svalbard, take a look and the cheapest fly is to have for 265 euro round trip

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OK, thought Svalbard would be very expensive. I guess Norway subsidises the flights.

And yes, my guess was the map showing Iceland as "Nazi" was just bad movie making 'fact' checking. The movie wasn't big on facts ...

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I guess Norway subsidises the flights.



I think so

find a source, not the russian waters but martin bay/ labrador 1944





"U-537’s bosun, Oberbootsmann Martin Strasser (centre) beams with pride on the afterdeck of the submarine as he poses with other crew members and the polar bear he shot near the weather station installation."
http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/S...13/Icefire.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Station_Kurt




another polar bear hunt


The polar bear on the deck of U 307 submarine in Albertini Bay, September 1944.


The lighter side of life at Worldie Bay as H. Semkat (left) and H. Reyer (right) hold two young polar bears. 22April 1945





modern russian nuclear submarine problem
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Big boy.

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Here you can enjoy the hunting scenes from Carpathians Mountains near Skole (Western Ukraine). Before WWI.













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great pics, its deer hunters paradies

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Great photos.

The scenery looks similar to the area where I live, the foothills of California's Sierra Nevada.

That's a dandy Stutzen in photo #6. With the location of the bolt handle, it looks rather like a Mannlicher Schoenauer.

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I wonder if they killed that polar bear with that grease gun. Or did they just torpedo it.

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Ivans

Interesting old photos. And unusual railway car. Thanks for posting.

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Great photos, Ivan; thank you for posting.
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Thank you for your nice comments.

I'm continuing...

The same place and the same time (more-less)

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Why is the bear smoking a cigar ?

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More interesting photos. I like all three of them.

The large red stag. The line up of antlers. And mostly the bear and masses of hunters, all with their double shotguns, I presume, and some singles.

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The author Anthony Buxton, from his book "Sporting Interludes At Geneva" (Country Life, 1932). The picture is entitled 'Myself after pig'. Note the muzzle protector on his (Rigby??) rifle.

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The author Anthony Buxton, from his book "Sporting Interludes At Geneva" (Country Life, 1932). The picture is entitled 'Myself after pig'. Note the muzzle protector on his (Rigby??) rifle.




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Why is the bear smoking a cigar ?



wrong question, the bear was shot because he was smoking!
was a strict non smoking area, he was warned before twice - no third warning

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Why is the bear smoking a cigar ?



wrong question, the bear was shot because he was smoking!
was a strict non smoking area, he was warned before twice - no third warning

Obviously, this is the aftermath of an execution. Normally, the condemned prisoner is allowed a smoke before being shot by a firing squad. He must have been brave, since there is no blindfold present.

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with a Mannlicher Schönauer



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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


Why is the bear smoking a cigar ?



wrong question, the bear was shot because he was smoking!
was a strict non smoking area, he was warned before twice - no third warning

Obviously, this is the aftermath of an execution. Normally, the condemned prisoner is allowed a smoke before being shot by a firing squad. He must have been brave, since there is no blindfold present.



Very funny.

BTW while all you crazu NE members are talking about cigars, I decided to blow the photo up.

Is the 'cigar' the bear's tongue? Or some sort of 'last meal rite' like the last turnip? Or is it the bear's truly last Habano smoke?

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with a Mannlicher Schönauer





Classic.

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I'm continuing...
The same place and the same time (more-less)





Seems to be the same man:



Col. August Von Spiess (August 6, 1864 – 1953), formally known as Oberst August Roland von Braccioforte zum Portner und Höflein, was an officer, writer, famous hunter and Hunting Master for the Romanian royal court.
Von Spiess was born in Austria and became a Romanian citizen after the Union of Transylvania with Romania, following the dissolution of Austria-Hungary.
In 1875, at 11 years old, he entered the military school of Sankt Pölten, after which he joined the Theresian Military Academy of Wiener Neustadt, Vienna. After 10 years of military studies, in August 1885 he became a lieutenant in the Transylvanian 64th Infantry stationed in the Alba Iulia area. In May 1889 he advanced to the rank of Major and settled in Sibiu, where he acted as drill officer. In 1893 he became a professor at the Military Infantry Cadet School of Sibiu; in 1911 he was named commander of the school. In February 1915, he advanced to the rank of Colonel and took command of the 2nd Regiment Infantry in Sibiu.
Von Spiess finished his military career after the end of World War I, and was appointed by King Ferdinand I of Romania as Director of the Royal Hunts from 1 July 1921. He kept this function until 1939. Simultaneously, he was a member of the Commission for Protection of Nature and National Parks, alongside honorary memberships of many domestic and foreign societies and associations with similar interests.
In 1926, Von Spiess and his daughter initiated a project to tag the birds of Snake Island, Romania. He led two hunting expeditions in equatorial Africa, in Kenya in 1936 and in Tanganika in 1938. He was a fine observer of nature, a connoisseur of game habits and a keen hunter, and gathered during his life a collection of over 1,000 hunting trophies. He also wrote a number of books pertaining to animals and hunting, mostly tied to the Carpathian Mountains region.

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      #312026 - 09/02/18 06:52 AM

and it seems he had at least 2 or 3 different M 95 Mannlicher hunting rifles. last pic seems to be a half stock when the upper two pics showing full stock rifles and I am not sure this were the same.

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from the great war


https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/44027150515/

1917 somewhere in the Carpathians



https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/43283181780/

what looks like busy trapper out for mister fox are jaw trapps laying before the own front line to catch the enemy at night
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postcards from the International Hunting Exhibition Berlin 1937
















the goods old times...
imagine you show a taxidermied panda on a hunting exhibition today






see it on youtube, colour film showing this event
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      #346401 - 01/11/20 08:50 PM

must be britisch



britisch




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german



germans with some russian




finland, the boy on the left must have a smooth bored swedish remington shotgun



finland, looks like wartime, the hunterhave a mosin sporter



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      #346404 - 01/11/20 09:07 PM

Good old times exempt of incompetent politicians, uncontrolled immigration and COVID 19; thank you for posting, Lancaster!
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      #346406 - 01/11/20 11:57 PM

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must be britisch







Or Australian with the rabbits and also the clothes.

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      #346951 - 19/11/20 05:36 AM

looks german



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      #346960 - 19/11/20 05:01 PM

Ja, das stimmt,. Wunderbar.

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looks german





Without those pipes, meerschaums?, and the feathers on the hats, it could almost be my Barossa ancestors. The coats might be a bit different as well with some Aust Army great coats.

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      #350395 - 16/02/21 04:50 AM

I love these old pics! I also take special note that the gentlemen are properly dressed. Most are wearing ties! Theres none of todays sloppiness. No mixed camouflage patterns, no t-shirts. no bib overalls without shirts. These are gentlemen doing a gentleman task and dressed as gentlemen!

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      #350398 - 16/02/21 05:25 AM

Don't know if they are meerschaums or not. It does darken with age and smoking. Could very well be. German or Austrian.
Looks like some central fire and pin fire guns.

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      #350429 - 17/02/21 05:06 AM

thats right, at least the two I have marked are pinfire double guns



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      #353459 - 16/05/21 06:56 PM

Really nice moose; the proud hunter has a familiar face to me.
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      #353460 - 16/05/21 07:05 PM

Nice moose, that's right, but the caliber of the rifle seems a little small to me.

I don't know if he shot the moose in an open area. He sometimes did things like that.

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      #353461 - 16/05/21 08:56 PM

its allways said 8x75RS in a Bockdoppel was his favorite caliber and he had shoot also the now forgotten rimless version the 8x75S.
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      #353471 - 16/05/21 11:35 PM

Where would the moose/alg/elg have been shot? Finland? ?

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Where would the moose/alg/elg have been shot? Finland? ?


northern East Prussia, now the Russian Kaliningrad Oblast! It had a small but healthy Elch/moose population in the 1930s.

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      #353482 - 17/05/21 02:28 AM

6.5's work very well on moose with suitable bullets. The rifle appears to have a larger bore than that.
Hard to say.
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      #353493 - 17/05/21 07:58 AM

Maybe it's this one?

Jon Speed in ORIGINAL OBERNDORF SPORTING RIFLES shows a picture of:

"Double Square Bridge Magnum Mauser with 6x scope attached, made up in a 9.3x70mm wildcat cartridge based on a necked-down 10.75x73 mm (.404) case by Berlin gunsmith Ludwig Schiwy, expressly to order for Reichsmarschall Herman Göring. Note the front scope base bypasses the square receiver ring, in favour of a mount on the barrel shank".

Double triggers, adjustable cheekpiece, long barrel {26", 28"?} with sling swivel on the barrel. Family crest engraved on the magazine floorplate.

Not a fan of the man but his taste in this rifle is right on the money. Very workmanlike but tastefully done. Really a fine hunting rifle.

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      #353514 - 17/05/21 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Where would the moose/alg/elg have been shot? Finland? ?


northern East Prussia, now the Russian Kaliningrad Oblast! It had a small but healthy Elch/moose population in the 1930s.



Thanks. East Prussia, makes sense, but was not aware of Elch - I assume is the German name for moose, I'll add it to my vocabulary - in East Prussia.

Some of my ancestors may have come from the region.

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      #353524 - 18/05/21 05:20 AM

east prussia before the war had an excellent elch stock. the sharpe selecting produced probably more good bulls that the other countrys around had then.

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      #353526 - 18/05/21 06:14 AM

My wife's family were all Ostpreussisch. Came over before WW1, between WW1 & 2 and then the last of them after WW2. The story is the first thing the men did was buy rifles and a hunting license plus for one Tante who became known for making the boys a good feed for breakfast and heading out after doing the dishes whereupon she shot her deer and had it hanging on the game pole before they all got back for lunch!

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      #353540 - 18/05/21 04:36 PM

Good Lady; one could make a success book or film with such a family history!
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east prussia before the war had an excellent elch stock. the sharpe selecting produced probably more good bulls that the other countrys around had then.



No doubt if the Elch herd was managed for trophy quality. As pretty much all of Norway, Sweden and Finland are meat hunter lands, a trophy is more of a chance than planning.

Having said that, when hunting wtth ErikD the second time, I did see and have an opportunity at a very good trophy bull moose. Had to count its tines, and then recount, it took a step or two and disappeared. Now I would just shoot it instantly and forget about counting its tines. Uwe, a young hunter may have shot the same bull moose the next year, and it was his first moose I believe. Magnificent trophy, the best in the region for a long time I believe. Good for him, well done. Damn I should have shot it the year before. Christian would have hated me, he had to let it walk past him, as in Norwegian the hunters had all been told to stop shooting. Not understanding Norwegian I was under no such restrictions ... Damnation !!!!

Sville/Staffan on these forums, busy nowadays not shooting or hunting much, and instead long distance skiing and stuff, had a good number of excellent moose trophies in his house. Not from his home area but from an area he had lived in the past. I want to hunt there!

BUT as these areas are all meat hunter areas, a trophy is not very common.

My one and only moose was a bull with a tine and a tine and a half! But good meat.

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      #355085 - 11/07/21 04:37 AM

the grand duke of mecklenburg around 1900, pic was made in gmunden austria and he is in a alpine costume



notice the small bore double rifle, maybe a best quality hunting gun -
not for chamois hunting but for driven reed deer,imho.

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the grand duke of mecklenburg around 1900, pic was made in gmunden austria and he is in a alpine costume



notice the small bore double rifle, maybe a best quality hunting gun -
not for chamois hunting but for driven reed deer,imho.



Something we don't do much these days, formal hunting pose portraits. Dress in appropriate clothes, carry the appropriate firearm and accountrements. The old fashioned photograph studio screen behind. Looks good.

Something perhaps we should do again today. A vintage look. And portrait photogrpahs for posterity. A portrait for the wall, and emailed images to friends.

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A reason we don't do this now, is photography has become so easy. So we take easy unplanned photographs and portraits. The well planned and thought out portraits for such an image have disappeared. Portrait photography of course still exists, for weddings, for pttty girls spending money for well organised images, models and the like.

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      #355103 - 12/07/21 02:35 PM

Worth remembering that those vintage photos, although formal, were contemporary at the time. ...and we appreciate them for that!

Its great to dress formally for photos occasionally, and the vintage look is simply marvelous.
But I chuckle at the thought of future "students of hunting" viewing photos of us in full commercial Mossy-Oak-style camo, or in the tropics, rugby shorts and T-shirt, saying "Check out these vintage hunting photos, how quaint!"

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were contemporary at the time. ...

But I chuckle at the thought of future "students of hunting" viewing photos of us in full commercial Mossy-Oak-style camo, or in the tropics, rugby shorts and T-shirt, saying "Check out these vintage hunting photos, how quaint!"



I dread to think of the future ...



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      #355159 - 15/07/21 05:19 AM

germany






because of the reindeer and the mosin rifle on the wall I would say Finland




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      #356602 - 06/09/21 12:09 AM

american soldiers hunting for the pot, winter 1944-45 somewhere in area of luxemburg, belgium, germany



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      #356611 - 06/09/21 09:43 AM

And no Thinsulate in those boots either, just leather and damp wool socks.
But they're still grinning! Must really love their huntin'...

Or be really sick of spam!

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      #356616 - 06/09/21 03:07 PM

In the region and timing of the Ardennes Offensive / Battle of the Bulge. Was recorded by American troops as being a very cold winter. For those especially without winter gear.

Hares and deer, no doubt better than beans and spam, until Army cooks get hold of them!

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      #358107 - 14/11/21 06:58 AM

another hunting gun find in a german WW 1 picture

in the vosges mountains




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      #358111 - 14/11/21 12:22 PM

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american soldiers hunting for the pot, winter 1944-45 somewhere in area of luxemburg, belgium, germany





Those European Hares are quite large. I used to hunt them for food with and for my Belgium Shepherd. He'd get 1/2 1 day and the other 1/2 the next day. After they were frozen, I'd cut them in half with a sickle. Not gun shy (10-.22 only - he didn't like the 12 bore), he loved to hunt them with me. That would be about 1966 or so.

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      #382428 - 10/02/24 07:07 AM

Some impressive heads & tallies taken!
Some good huntresses too!

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That one pic of "Kaiser Bill" as my wife's East Prussian grandmother called him (she liked his Dad, but not him. )...

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Very interesting historical photos.

We need a German "the Shooting Party" type movie. Maybe a noble blue blood deer and boar driven hunt weekend.

Are all the men wearing the same clothes wearing army uniforms, or forester uniforms, or a mxture?

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      #382437 - 10/02/24 08:19 PM

most men wearing the prussian forester uniform



some are simply foreigners like here left of his majesty his cousin zcar nicolaus from russia


- the idiot who startet the great war on july 30, 1914 by mobilize his army against germany. a mistake that killed his entire beloved family after the russian hordes wreak havoc in east prussia like pigs.
same behavior they still showing today in ukraine.

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We need a German "the Shooting Party" type movie. Maybe a noble blue blood deer and boar driven hunt weekend.




but who would be the bad guy than in the storyline? hollywood style would be a young american found himself on such a hunt, an arrogant count beat him for nothing but he clever knock him out. then the complete hunting party try to kill him but he take one after the other in a most brutal way, most time with a .45 Colt SAA shooting the head off or the balls.

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We need a German "the Shooting Party" type movie. Maybe a noble blue blood deer and boar driven hunt weekend.




but who would be the bad guy than in the storyline? hollywood style would be a young american found himself on such a hunt, an arrogant count beat him for nothing but he clever knock him out. then the complete hunting party try to kill him but he take one after the other in a most brutal way, most time with a .45 Colt SAA shooting the head off or the balls.

in the end riding on a rainbow unicorn into the sundown to free people of colour.



Ausgezeichnet!

That's a screenplay!

Delete this immediately before anyone steals it and sends it off to 20th Century Studios!

lanc, it's your chance to make a mint!

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      #382450 - 11/02/24 03:22 PM

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most men wearing the prussian forester uniform



some are simply foreigners like here left of his majesty his cousin zcar nicolaus from russia





Unusual to wear blue as a hunting colour. But I'm guessing they stand with attendants in a shooting line, animals being driven towards them by beaters.

The hat appears in the photos to be a form of slouch hat?

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      #382451 - 11/02/24 04:21 PM

I think czar nicolaus actually wear a dark green hunting costume. on black and whito photo colours sometimes change into obscure.

anyone had some kind of a uniform then, also I have an old uniform in the wardrobe( don't fits anymore).
forester still have a uniform here but it changed over the last decades and now it become woke.
realy

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      #382453 - 11/02/24 04:34 PM

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Ausgezeichnet!

That's a screenplay!

Delete this immediately before anyone steals it and sends it off to 20th Century Studios!

lanc, it's your chance to make a mint!

(We expect to be informed where to see you in your cameo appearance...the Poacher maybe? )



is this realy so good? tinseltown makes sequels of this movie for 100 years now.

I only demand that this becomes the titel track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVcNfiRWS6U

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: lancaster]
      #382455 - 11/02/24 07:09 PM

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anyone had some kind of a uniform then, also I have an old uniform in the wardrobe( don't fits anymore).
forester still have a uniform here but it changed over the last decades and now it become woke.
realy



Pink woke uniform?

Or metrosexual urban?

I pictureforest greens and browns , loden cloth, wool as the traditional clothes. Maybe lederhosen in the south.

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Re: european vintage pics [Re: NitroX]
      #382457 - 11/02/24 08:42 PM

so called modern functional wear like this






its just a small step to the 82 genders
and looks like tramps compared with the uniforms they had when I was a child

this was the common style up to the early 1990s


not to talk about the custom made uniforms in the monarchy

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      #382467 - 12/02/24 01:06 AM

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so called modern functional wear like this






its just a small step to the 82 genders
and looks like tramps compared with the uniforms they had when I was a child



Modern wear. Industrial looking work wear. By

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Modern wear. Industrial looking work wear. By



Yup.

That is exactly what it is.

"Egalitarianism"!

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