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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#261938 - 09/03/15 06:06 AM

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http://www.gunstar.co.uk/webley-webley-s...Air-Guns/747463

looks rather nice

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The photo in that link looks like a original, even has some rust spots on the bluing !

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Sarg]
#261962 - 09/03/15 04:03 PM

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http://www.gunstar.co.uk/webley-webley-s...Air-Guns/747463

looks rather nice

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The photo in that link looks like a original, even has some rust spots on the bluing !

Yes definitely an original .455 cal Webley in that photo. I can't imagine a £199.99 air pistol being made to that standard and it would surely have a ‘new’ finish on it to sell.
I would be interested in buying one if they ever got to be available here in NZ. Don’t need a firearm licence to own an airgun if 18 years old or over and no restrictions in general on owning air pistols.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: eagle27]
#261971 - 09/03/15 06:20 PM

How does that air pistol work? Anyone know?

Webley / Webley & Scott battlefield .177 Air pistols For Sale in Dyfed

webley mkv1 service revolver .177
4.4mm bb
built from original blue prints
loads ,cycles,fires and ejects as original.
original 1915 markings
single/double action
full size
full metal
6 inch barrel
6 shot
2.4 lbs

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#261974 - 09/03/15 07:18 PM

I'm not a believer on this one, me thinks it is a hoax ?

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Sarg]
#261977 - 10/03/15 12:18 AM

no gentleman no hoax co2 gas cartidge in handle did post a link to pyramid air with a new one on it not as battlefield found but it did not post my connection seems to be playing up

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#261982 - 10/03/15 02:04 AM

What do you make of this - Anderson Wheeler to produce the Webley Mkv11 in .357mag. Oh how our UK laws depress me, reduced to co2 bb guns and plastic! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/revolver/Mark-VII#

Interesting? Does anyone have more info?

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: karamoja]
#261983 - 10/03/15 02:14 AM

Very interesting, but .45 S&W or .45 Schofield would have been a better chambering- imho.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: DarylS]
#261988 - 10/03/15 02:53 AM

have a read of the reviews

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Webley_MKVI_CO2_BB_Revolver/3560

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#261991 - 10/03/15 03:19 AM

and this site has the both together

http://www.alansairrifles.co.uk/collectors.htm

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#261996 - 10/03/15 05:42 AM

Nuts - that is a major disappointment- I thought they were going to be in .357 Mag. Where did I see that?
BB guns- blaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: DarylS]
#261998 - 10/03/15 07:16 AM

Here and yes 45 colt would be better
http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/revolver/Mark-VII#
Karamoja

Edited by karamoja (10/03/15 07:18 AM)

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#262000 - 10/03/15 07:47 AM

Ok, thank you, there is a real one then, but some thing is still fishy on that "Battle Field Finish" model, it has not been converted, if it was they BB gun & looked like that I would take two tomorrow !

The real BB one looks Ok if in fact it is made from steel or a modified Webley, but I still have my doubts on that one !

I have a Baikal MP-654K made in Russia from real Baikal IJ-70/Makarov pistols, same idea a little easier as they are still making Makarov's & gas cylinder is in the detachable Hi cap mag, full weight & cost double what a IJ-70 would !

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Sarg]
#262026 - 10/03/15 05:00 PM

Not fooled - the battlefield revolver is a real Webley to my eyes, compare the hammers, the real one has the base of the firing pin showing as in all early photos in this post, the air pistol has no pin. The trigger on the battle field revolver is fully forward when in the uncocked position against its stop with no gap visible, the air pistol has a gap. The battle field has burred slots in some of the screws, the air pistol perfect, can't imagine they would go to this extent with individual parts, easy enough though to apply an old patina to the whole gun.

Still the air pistol looks pretty close to the real thing would like to see one in the flesh.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: DarylS]
#262029 - 10/03/15 05:58 PM

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Nuts - that is a major disappointment- I thought they were going to be in .357 Mag. Where did I see that?
BB guns- blaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Daryl,

You are confused.

YES the Anderson Wheeler Mk VII is to be chambered in .357 Magnum.

The BB gun referred to is the, real or not, air handgun in the link, small photo, etc which is also being discussed.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#262035 - 10/03/15 08:15 PM

looks like they used an original photo in the above this link below show actual pistol in battlefield finish

http://www.surplusstore.co.uk/air-weapon...tle-finish.html

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#262036 - 10/03/15 08:28 PM

It would be cool to own one of these. Just for fun. Also practising target shooting at home. But I think it would require a full handgun licence here in SA and attendance at a target shooting club (six a year) using it. For owning what is basically a toy.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#262053 - 11/03/15 03:11 AM

Two Anderson Wheeler advertisements (the first image features an older service revolver) for their upcoming Anderson Wheeler Mk VII Revolver in .357 Magnum. Wholly made by Anderson Wheeler in the UK.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
#262054 - 11/03/15 03:32 AM

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looks like they used an original photo in the above this link below show actual pistol in battlefield finish

http://www.surplusstore.co.uk/air-weapon...tle-finish.html

greenshoots

The CO2 powered .177 air pistol is made by Webley in China I believe.

This new Webley revolver is built from the original blueprints so it loads, cycles, fires and ejects just like the original! This has the oringal 1915 markings and has a single and double action trigger. This is a full 1:1 scale replica which is even the same weight as the original! This is fully field strippable and has a 6" barrel with a 6 shot chamber that you load the 6 fake shells into.

This is the 'Battlefield finish' version.

Don't forget to order your Co2 capsules and 177 copper/steel BBs with this product.

http://www.surplusstore.co.uk/air-weapon...tle-finish.html

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Edited by NitroX (11/03/15 03:44 AM)

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#262055 - 11/03/15 03:43 AM

Webley Mark VI CO2 revolver
12-gram CO2 cartridge
6-rd BB cylinder (holds 6 realistic-looking cartridge shells)
Full metal
Fixed front and rear sights
Textured grips
Double-/single-action
Manual safety
Field-strippable
Lanyard loop
Can be decocked
Extracts cartridges just like the firearm!
Shells are marked .455 as a tribute to the caliber of the firearm it copies
Manufacturer says the gun goes 388 fps; our tests show it goes up to 427 fps
Includes 6 shells (each shell is loaded with one steel BB; loaded shell is then inserted into the gun's cylinder)

Does not work with any speedloaders or other brands of cartridge shells, even though they may look very similar.

Just when you thought there couldn't be another great firearm replica, along comes this one!

The iconic Webley Mark VI revolver was a mainstay for British troops during WWI. In fact, you've probably seen the firearm in movies such as "Lawrence of Arabia," "Khartoum," Indiana Jones series, "Zulu" and "Zulu Dawn."

Put your CO2 pistol next to the firearm, and you'll be hard-pressed to tell them apart.

Both guns use cartridge shells.
The BB gun's shells are marked .455 -- a reference to the firearm caliber.
Both guns field-strip the same way!
Shells in both guns eject the same way.
The lanyard loop on the BB gun does double duty as the tightening screw to help properly pierce the CO2 cartridge.

Of course, you don't have to own the firearm to enjoy the Webley Mark VI CO2 BB gun. This replica pistol is a joy to shoot because it copies the firearm, which was highly revered by British soldiers who carried it in the Great War.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Webley_MKVI_CO2_BB_Revolver/3560

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#262077 - 11/03/15 04:47 PM

I take it the cartridge shells are the barrel in themselves, it does not look to have a .177 rifled barrel inserted through the 6" barrel of the revolver itself where in any case the cylinder gap would negate its worth?
A short cylinder or barrel is all that's required for a gas pistol where a sharp small burst of gas sends the light BB or pellet on its way.
Might have to invest in one of these for old times sake seeing as I no longer own the real thing, damn what was I thinking.

I do have one of those pump up Crosman American Classic air pistols in .177 cal and use slightly heavier lead BBs instead of steel BBs or pellets. This pistol is superbly accurate and hits real hard, easily penetrating steel cans from side to side without pumping to maximum.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#262540 - 20/03/15 04:10 PM

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Two Anderson Wheeler advertisements (the first image features an older service revolver) for their upcoming Anderson Wheeler Mk VII Revolver in .357 Magnum. Wholly made by Anderson Wheeler in the UK.

Well I'm very curious to see the Mk VII revolver. Very curious indeed.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Checkman]
#262552 - 20/03/15 07:26 PM

Checkman. No more curious than I. Have 2 nearing completion s/ns 31357L & 31357R one for each holster. Madness is a wonderful thing.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Ahmed577]
#263187 - 06/04/15 03:19 PM

Fantastic.Matching Webleys carried in dual holsters. I'm envious. I own one and it's actually one of the Mk VI's made by Enfield in 1925. It's still a Mk VI, but it doesn't say Webley on it. Oh well I searched for many years until I finally found one so I'm happy. Next up is a either a Webley Mk IV in 38/200 or the Enfield No 2. They're actually still pretty common here in the United States.Well the 38/200 Enfields are.

Actually that isn't totally true. I've actually got a 1941 British contract Colt Official Police in 38/200 with five inch barrel lined up for my next purchase. All the correct British proof marks and no importer stamp so it came into the USA before 1968. I hope to have it in my safe by June of this year. Though not a British manufactured revolver it served with the English in WWII so it works.

Edited by Checkman (06/04/15 03:31 PM)

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#314102 - 18/03/18 04:15 PM

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Weapons of the Empire

SMLE No. 1 Mk III, Webley Mk VI revolver, and a very long and nasty looking bayonet!

BTW how long were these bayonets?

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
#314103 - 18/03/18 04:31 PM

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Are you allowed to own one of these in Oz?

Curl

Yes, if one can use it for target shooting. I assume the calibre at .455 is OK??? But some bigger bore calibres I thought were banned or restricted??? Will have to have a look at the regs.

Back on this.

I assume one could be acquired for target shooting in .455 for metal silhoutte target shooting.

A vintage .455 probably could also be acquired by a collector but not shot more than once per year, and ammo not owned for it, except for the once per year shoot. Pain in the arse. Assumption but collectors do have them in some states or Territories.

As the modern .357 Mk VII is within the .357/9mm maximum restriction for Aust handguns, a A-W could be owned for other handgun target shooting.

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