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What do you think of this Galazan U/O?
      #251063 - 26/07/14 12:08 PM

What do you think of this Galazan U/O?

Tirzi is the engraver, enamel decorations.





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Re: What do you think of this Galazan U/O? [Re: NitroX]
      #251068 - 26/07/14 07:26 PM

While the artistic skill of both the engraver and the enameller are without doubt quite astounding, I believe theses types of decoration are starting to become too much. The gun itself is now secondary to the decoration. IMO a great gun is a fusion of the gun makers skill, the stockist and the engraver. An engraving should complement the gun and the gun should be functional but also provide a canvas for a tasteful engraving. When successfully combined a beautiful gun is something you can look at for a long time without wanting to put it down. It should also instil the desire to go out hunting with that gun, or bring you memories of a great hunt already passed. I absolutely love engraving and study a lot of it and am on engraving forums as well and I have noticed a trend with some of the current gun makers, in particular upmarket Italian ones to treat the engraving as more important than the gun itself. Guns are now often bought because of the person who engraved it rather than the maker of the gun. IMO the Belgians have got, or at least used to have that mix pretty well perfect. If you have a look at some of the Browning (FN) exhibition pieces from the 80's and 90's they are so beautiful that it is hard to stop looking at them. Game scenes with scroll border and just the right amount of gold inlay. Unbeatable. IMHO.

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Re: What do you think of this Galazan U/O? [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #251069 - 26/07/14 09:20 PM

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While the artistic skill of both the engraver and the enameller are without doubt quite astounding, I believe theses types of decoration are starting to become too much. The gun itself is now secondary to the decoration. IMO a great gun is a fusion of the gun makers skill, the stockist and the engraver. An engraving should complement the gun and the gun should be functional but also provide a canvas for a tasteful engraving. When successfully combined a beautiful gun is something you can look at for a long time without wanting to put it down. It should also instil the desire to go out hunting with that gun, or bring you memories of a great hunt already passed. I absolutely love engraving and study a lot of it and am on engraving forums as well and I have noticed a trend with some of the current gun makers, in particular upmarket Italian ones to treat the engraving as more important than the gun itself. Guns are now often bought because of the person who engraved it rather than the maker of the gun. IMO the Belgians have got, or at least used to have that mix pretty well perfect. If you have a look at some of the Browning (FN) exhibition pieces from the 80's and 90's they are so beautiful that it is hard to stop looking at them. Game scenes with scroll border and just the right amount of gold inlay. Unbeatable. IMHO.

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I would agree with these comments.
I shoot skeet with a Browning GP sporter shotgun. Probably entry level as far as Brownings go. It already has a few bumps and bruises as careful as I am. I also used some of my redundancy money to buy a Perazzi Sideplate which is beautifully engraved. I have not shot skeet with it yet. One day I will but I still worry about it a bit. I just could not imagine using the featured gun. Hang it on a wall maybe !!
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Re: What do you think of this Galazan U/O? [Re: 375Brno]
      #251070 - 26/07/14 10:42 PM

Forgive my ramblings please. 35 years ago I loved highly engraved metal & beautify figuered wood. I bought new English guns back then based on this love. I have a 577 nitroH&H engraved with Ahmed the famous elephant. David Winks of H&H organised this with Phyl Coggan. Westley Richards via JohnSaunders London Guns built me a 250 - 3000 kurz takedown rifle & a 410 drop lock shotgun (with spare set of locks) heavily engraved with wallaby( 250) & flock , comman , & brush bronze wing ( 410). I cried the day I sat with the 410 250 kilometres east of halls creek & saw my first flock of " flock bro zings" with my beautiful 410 in hand. What stopped me from this passion was my friends in general looking at the guns and talking only about the wood&engraving. If my madness continues I will have the only tyre lever engraved by a famous gun engraver & several blocks of polished wood (strength) won't matter for for those friends & real guns for my other friends. To that end I have a battery of purdeys nearing completion ( 9 ) all traditional purdey.

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Re: What do you think of this Galazan U/O? [Re: Ahmed577]
      #251094 - 27/07/14 08:28 AM

Ahmed,

I will see if I can put some of your photos up today for everyone to see. And hopefully some more when sent in the future.

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Re: What do you think of this Galazan U/O? [Re: NitroX]
      #251096 - 27/07/14 08:31 AM

I love the artwork on these shotguns featured above. But would never do it myself, for financial reasons alone, but also because if I had such a beautiful gun I would not doubt end up with some rust on it and abuse its artwork.

The guns have enamel decorations. A big questions is how durable would those decorations be?

Gold and metals are brazed, or melted in, but enamel I would imagine could be quite delicate.

Anyone with knowledge on this? Thanks.

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Re: What do you think of this Galazan U/O? [Re: NitroX]
      #251098 - 27/07/14 08:35 AM

BTW I think I am going to start a new "gun porn" thread, or find an old one if it exists. And post meaningless porn photos of guns and rifles just for enjoyment and perhaps excite and even provoke our NE members.

A lot of these have been posted on the NE FB page over time, as simple page fillers, and interest pieces. Maybe the members here will have 'thoughtful' comments, or make informed comments. Always educative when others point out stuff, others may not notice.



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