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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #249888 - 03/07/14 12:46 PM

Another little piece of the puzzle I was playing with today was the barrel mounted sling eye. Thanks to Sarg
As mentioned earlier I got a couple of these posts


So with an off cut of shotgun barrel which just happens to have an ID that is almost the same as the OD at the appropriate place half way between the end of the forestock and the end of the barrel.


From a centre punch and pilot drill hole I marked the desired outline of a circle and bored the required hole in the barrel to take the cut down stud.



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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #249889 - 03/07/14 12:48 PM

I wanted to have a more oval than round outline so ground the side back till it looked about right



And started the process of rounding off the edges



Still some tidying to do but at least I know it will work.



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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #249895 - 03/07/14 01:43 PM

von Gruff you have done a beautiful job so far. I myself get the grestest of pleasure hunting eith a rifle that i have built myself .In America ,German immigrant gunsmiths built the Pennsylvania long rifles during the Revolutionary days ;a rifle especially made for America.Everytime i start on a new rifle building venture i think of these craftsman who helped build the tools to defend our nation . Another benefit of building your own rifle is the development of patience; a skill most usefull in the hunting fields.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #249897 - 03/07/14 03:30 PM

So quick too!

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: tinker]
      #249950 - 04/07/14 11:56 PM

Outstanding work!

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Nailcreek]
      #250043 - 06/07/14 10:02 AM

Into the start of the finishing process.
Taking it from the finish if the whiskering process, I flooded the surface twice for an hour at a time with 50/50 vege turps/ tung oil, wet sanded it three times with 600 grit to fill the pores. The first two times there is a hand wiped surface left (wiped against the grain) and the third time it is hard rubbed with cloth. Making sure it is dry between these operations. Next was the first hand rubbed coat of about 25-30% veg turps to cut the tung oil and just dipping the pad of one finger tip into this is enough to wipe on and rub into one side of the butt stock so you can see that it really is a case of many very thin coats to build the finish. Rubbed in this way till the wood is warmed by the hand there is just the very minor wet appearance to the wood. Hang it and do this once a day. Have 3 coats on and will do this daily for the next aprox 20 days.



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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #250184 - 08/07/14 03:37 PM

Have got a few more things sorted today with work on the aperture sight, the front sight and the fifth coat of oil rubbed in.

I had been putting of going back to the aperture sight as I knew I was in for some work with the dremmel and needle files to get the aperture plate bedded into the aperture arm. I had used a little machine screw and nut to hold the two together but this made a protrusion underneath and had it sitting higher than I wanted, and of course would necessitate height on the front sight over what I wanted to have.
I filed from full thickness to about .01 at the end on the aperture plate and then scribed around it and sunk it into the underside of the aperture arm then filed most of the head off the machine screw, used it and riveted the underneath side to give me the smoothest line I could get. Then with just a little sanding on the dustcover attachment lug I was able to get the aperture arm to clear the bolt when it was sitting in its lowest position, actually sitting on the screws that hold it to the wrist of the rifle.


I got in touch with Scott from http://www.customscrewsandmore.com/Page4.html and he is making me a set of wrist screws that have a lever head with a thumb grip so that I can undo them a half turn and lift the sight to the top of its slide for bolt removal and because I will shoot "the load" in to where the slide is down on the top of the slide adjustment, it will be a simple matter to re-set it for my desired 150 yd zero.
It was going to need a taller front sight and I wanted one with a flat topped blade which I find the best for the aperture sight. The existing front sight was a inverted V so I filed it off and cut a groove into the ramp with hack saw and filed it to fit the new blade I made. It was a tap in fit but there is room to either pin it or for the GS to do a micro weld at the front, however even without this it was a tight fit. I am going to shorten the barrel by 3/4 inch to clean up the muzzle from pull throughs etc and this will still leave about 5/8 in in front of the sight ramp to the muzzle so will look right.






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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #250185 - 08/07/14 03:44 PM

Also worked on the barrel mounted sling eye

Hard to get a decent pic with just the cell phone but enough to give an idea of how it will look. The barrel steel was .125 thick and I have dressed it down to .05 round the edges.





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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #250214 - 09/07/14 09:07 AM

Well done indeed Mr Gruff!

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Euan]
      #250927 - 23/07/14 09:22 AM

I decided that after the 18th rubbing of oil into the stock it was starting to look about done and while it is still in the soft stage and will tae a week or two to harden up I couldn't resist assembling it this morning and thought to post a couple of pics. I am still waiting for the lever headed screws (they are in the mail and should be in in about a week-ten days) from Scott at http://www.customscrewsandmore.com/Page4.html who has been a real gent to deal with.
Then I will have to get the Lee speed done for Euan and we will get them blued at the same time as the barrel mounted sling eye is fixed in place.. Anyway this is it in the horrible light of winter this morning.







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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #250929 - 23/07/14 09:39 AM

Looking good. Lines of the stock are just how I like them.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Claydog]
      #251115 - 27/07/14 01:28 PM

Just been out and fired the first shots though my rifle and while it was only fireforming loads with the 316-299 over 13.5gn Green Dot (roughly 1400fps) and shot at 35yds as I didn't know how the aperture and new front sight I made was going to calibrate but this is a 10 shot group from standing with the bog-pod. With a quick calculation shows I can get by with a .006 shim between the sight arm and the rifle wrist. I little touch with a file will lift it but I will wait till I get the new mould and a decent bullet and settle on a hunting load till I finalise that. Very happy so far and this is with a bullet that has no nose support - 304 nose in 306 bore.


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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #251344 - 31/07/14 02:14 PM

I have been working on a second Lee Speed the last few days. Euan got in a 90% inlet and shaped stock for one he wanted to use as a rough hunting rifle and keep his genuine BSA Lee Speed for less strenuous affairs.

90% inlet is a bit of a misnomer as it still took about 15 hrs to get it all into the wood. but having Euans genuine article in hand was a good thing and a bad thing as he wanted both his rifles to "feel" the same in hand. Now I have to say that mine felt good and reasonable slim but after having Euans BSA to compare it to I had to take to the forestock and wrist area with a file and will have to refinish it again.

Yhis is the genuine BSA at top, the 20 in barrelled hunter centre and my effort at the bottom. One thing I had to do with Euans was to change the angle of the butt plate to an agnle which is more suited to his style of shooting. I am quite happy with the angle I have on mine as I am more inclined to stand upright where Euan leans into his shot. Only a few degrees but it does make a difference. I get flat butt against my shoulder with mine while I get more toe with his.





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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #251422 - 02/08/14 12:27 AM

Great work!

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Nailcreek]
      #251623 - 06/08/14 08:15 PM

Gary, Fantastic, Wonderful job.
I was going to say that the wrist area and forestock are much slimmer than you think on a Lee SPeed, but I see you had a real one to work from in the end. Congratulations.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: CarlsenHighway]
      #251685 - 07/08/14 11:10 AM

So are you ready to do your Springfield yet?

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #251767 - 08/08/14 12:03 PM

Got the first wet grain raising from 240 grit paper on Euan's Lee Speed today. A couple more raisings with 360 and I can start to finish it. Certainly showing promise of some very good colour.





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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #251924 - 11/08/14 12:00 PM

Von ... are you making the wood or are you getting it from Gordon? Really nice work!

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Nailcreek]
      #251927 - 11/08/14 01:31 PM

The second one is from Gordon but the first one I did from a blank. The lee enfield is about the most challenging stock I have done so far and makes Mausers, Martini's and Remingtons (and a few others), seem quite simple in comparison.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #252217 - 16/08/14 08:55 AM

This is Euans stock hanging waiting for an oil coat to dry



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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #252320 - 18/08/14 07:16 PM

That Mr Gruff, is sure looking good.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Euan]
      #252367 - 19/08/14 05:36 PM

Hello Euan and Co

I think its looking pretty good too, so much so that I bags Mr Gruff next to do a stock for one of my rifles, methinks maybe for a Sako 222.

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: Tentman]
      #252374 - 19/08/14 06:53 PM

Just having a play with some alkanet root at the moment so hope to be able to get the red background of the earlier English stocks. Had a teardown of my 7x57 after handling the slimness of the Lee Speeds and your mausers so will give it a try soon.






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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #252408 - 20/08/14 12:39 PM

A treatise indeed,Von G.
Euan, you're a lucky bloke...

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Re: BSA 1900 No 1 Sporter q's [Re: VonGruff]
      #252423 - 20/08/14 06:42 PM

Well Mr Gruff, The thought crossed my mind a week or two back,I wonder if mr G will have another go on his 7x57. I see you have. I bet it comes out a treat mr G.
Cheers Euan.

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